tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-44843606535076742342024-03-13T12:41:33.901+08:00AtheozoaAtheist ▪ Skeptic ▪ Humanist ▪ SingaporeanAtheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.comBlogger247125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-38770271786601699792014-05-25T23:00:00.000+08:002014-05-25T23:11:35.947+08:00Vicarious redemptionThe latest video by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLhtZqdkjshgq8TqwIjMdCQ">DarkMatter2525</a> looks at the notion of vicarious redemption.<br />
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Here's an interesting question to ponder: if you could save Jesus from being crucified, would you? And if you would, would this god be considered worthy of worship if he still sends everyone to hell?<br />
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A god that endorses scapegoating, methinks, is not moral.Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-75879740983252322522013-12-24T13:00:00.000+08:002013-12-24T15:33:26.379+08:00A secular ChristmasI'm not sure how obvious this is in Singapore or the USA: but it seems to me that Christmas has developed into 2 separate holidays - one Christian and the other secular.<br />
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Save for the name, practically nothing people associate with the Christmas holidays has anything to do to at all with Jesus or Christianity: gifts, family & friends, feasts, decorated trees, candy cane, snowman, Santa Claus, log cakes, mistletoe etc. There actually are non-Christian Christmas celebrations (obviously...).<br />
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So here, enjoy this video by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist?feature=watch">TheThinkingAtheist</a> regarding Christmas traditions.<br />
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On a related note, I just want to say that atheists can celebrate whatever holiday, religious or not, if they want to. I'm just not celebrating the myths -- if anything, the secular aspects (friends, family and common values etc) are what's worth celebrating. Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-68435518659595256292013-12-04T12:00:00.000+08:002013-12-22T13:07:03.177+08:00Dinosaur?Here's an excellent video by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa">AronRa</a> exploring the classification of dinosaurs (and their non-dinosaurian relatives).<br />
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Pterosaurs are not dinosaurs, but they share a close common ancestor.</div>
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Mosasaurs are not dinosaurs, instead they're related to today's monitor lizards.</div>
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Plesiosaurs are not dinosaurs either.</div>
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Dinosaurs are not lizards.</div>
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-14637533931266538362013-12-01T15:00:00.000+08:002013-12-22T13:39:22.620+08:00Morality and ChristianitySam Harris makes the case against Christian "morality".<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-55944178707283530062013-10-20T13:00:00.000+08:002015-04-12T11:57:19.217+08:00Kalam: To cause without causingThe Kalam Cosmological Argument suffers a suite of problems. But I find this particular flaw most interesting: it effectively argues for the cause of the universe while breaking the laws of causality.<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-19325545399582535122013-10-11T12:00:00.000+08:002013-12-22T13:06:00.612+08:00"Atheist just want to sin"<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525?feature=watch">DarkMatter2525</a> explains how much sense "atheists don't believe in god because they just want to sin" makes.<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-43520181082169727572013-09-19T20:00:00.000+08:002013-12-22T13:44:14.789+08:00Atheists and AtheismAs if the misconceptions about atheists and atheism weren't already pervasive, the Straits Times published a <a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/forum-letters/story/no-conclusive-definition-atheism-20130919">forum letter</a> today muddying the already cloudy waters. <br /><br />As per my modus operandi, I shall go through this letter point by point. Let's begin.<br /><br />
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Despite what he suggests, there is no conclusive definition of atheism.<br /><br />Some, like neuroscientist Sam Harris, would agree with him. Others, however, define atheism as a belief, as philosopher Michael Martin has done in his book The Cambridge Companion To Atheism.</blockquote>
<br />Oh? An atheist philosopher who doesn't notice the different subclasses of atheism and tars all atheists as strong atheists?<br /><br />Well, according to the University of Cambridge's site, Investigating Atheism, which cites Dr Michael Martin's book referenced in the forum letter, it says:<br /><br />
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Michael Martin, a leading atheist philosopher, defines atheism entirely in terms of belief. For him, negative atheism is simply the lack of theistic belief, positive atheism is the asserted disbelief in God, and agnosticism is the lack of either belief or disbelief in God. This suggests that negative atheism, the minimal position that all atheists share, divides neatly into agnosticism and positive atheism.</blockquote>
<br />So, no. Atheism is acknowledged to be, at minimum, referring to the "lack of theistic belief". And the assertion of the claim contrary to theism is known as strong atheism or positive atheism.<br /><br />Seems like we're off to a bad start.<br /><br />
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Despite the lack of a conclusive definition, the more commonly accepted definition is the one used by Pastor Lawrence Khong ("'I told the minister to send me to jail'"; Sept 7), namely, that atheism is a belief system.</blockquote>
<br />Even disregarding the confusion between atheism and strong atheism, a single belief is NOT a belief system. This is just wrong. Period.<br /><br />
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There are cogent reasons why atheism should be treated as such.</blockquote>
<br />Treat atheism as a belief system even though it isn't? This should be interesting. Go on.<br /><br />
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First, as a society, we need to be open about what we believe in and why we believe it, rather than hide behind labels.</blockquote>
<br />Firstly, "atheism" and "atheist" are accurate labels to describe someone who doesn't hold theistic beliefs. It is open and honest to state so.<br /><br />Secondly, hide what? Oh, he's about to tell us.<br /><br />
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It is not enough to describe. A person who describes himself as an atheist should be expected to give a rational defence of his belief. An absence of belief is still a belief.<br /><br />Just as we expect religious believers to substantiate their claims, we should expect the same standards of proof from atheists.</blockquote>
<br />Ah. Wrong.<br /><br />The burden of proof is always on the claimant. In this case, the claim is theism - that there is some god(s). Failing to prove/demonstrate the claim means that any one is justified in simply rejecting the claim.<br /><br />When you make an outrageous claim, I don't ever need to prove my case in order to disbelieve yours.<br /><br />This applies to strong atheists who assert that god(s) do not exist, of course. However, weak atheists, who make no such claim, have no such burden.<br /><br />
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This leads to the second point - atheism as a belief system allows for discourse with other belief systems and permits a meaningful exchange in world views, something especially important in a pluralistic society like Singapore.</blockquote>
<br />This can be done already.<br /><br />However, one should note that atheism is NOT the worldview of atheists. Atheism is a single position on a single claim. Indeed, for humanists and skeptics, atheism is merely a conclusion, not their dogma.<br /><br />
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If we are to mature as a society, then no assertions ought to be immune from scrutiny in the public sphere. Everyone should be mutually obligated to explain their belief systems from which they challenge other belief systems.</blockquote>
<br />And the unforunate error carries over throughout the letter.<br /><br />Again. Only strong atheism makes a positive assertion. Weak atheists (ie, most atheists) make no such assertion.<br /><br />
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Ultimately, the definition of atheism is contextual and dependent on how the person is using that term.</blockquote>
<br />Yes. But not in the way you explained so far. Most people simply aren't familiar with the terms, as you were.<br /><br />Lawrence Khong, whom you attempted defence for, most definitely had no clue what atheism is let alone the nuances of the term.<br /><br />
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Mr Tobin's letter should not be construed as defining what atheism really means, especially when even atheists themselves cannot agree on a single definition of atheism.</blockquote>
<br />Actually, Mr Tobin was providing THE single definition of atheism that covers ALL atheists. Afterall, if you don't reject theism, you would be a shitty atheist.<br /><br />There. Ugh. Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8295512579191232412013-07-23T14:30:00.000+08:002013-12-22T13:48:22.069+08:00"It's not religion, it's human (nature)""It's not religion, it's human (nature)."<br />
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That is a very common response when religion is accused of having a hand in evil. It might seem reasonable to most people uncritically looking at the discussion.<br />
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Well, it is not. The response basically asserts that religion is just a tool and humanity can do good and evil with it (like scientific knowledge). But that is simply untrue.<br />
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Religion is not "here's the name of god, do with it what you wish"; it is "here's a ambiguous book vested with the name of god, do whatever you interpret it says." It is not just a tool, it is a catalyst to do anything motivated with a divine authority.<br />
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Yes, humanity has good and bad. A evil man could use religion to do evil. BUT, as just explained, religion also allows good people to do evil in the name of god with good intents. And THAT is why religion is criticized of having a hand in doing evil.<br />
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Look at the cases of religiously motivated displays of misogyny, homophobia and ignorance in general. Those aren't evil people. Those are people being religious -- just people trying to do good after religion has crippled their reason and morality.<br />
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"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg</blockquote>
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-12424052728319351042013-03-24T19:00:00.000+08:002013-04-04T21:45:45.919+08:00Superstition<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup?feature=watch">QualiaSoup</a> refines his video on superstition. Excellent explanations.<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-40126825723178760692012-12-26T12:00:00.000+08:002012-12-26T12:12:51.973+08:00A little something from YoutubeJust some interesting videos from Youtube for this update.
Here's one from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity?feature=watch">Mr. Deity</a><br />
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And here's two from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525?feature=watch">DarkMatter2525</a>, a little something with Christmas:<br />
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And a little something on the original sin:<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-27810354201345363692012-12-19T10:00:00.000+08:002012-12-19T10:13:39.693+08:00Atheist CensusThe <a href="http://www.atheistalliance.org/">Atheist Alliance International</a> has launched the <a href="http://www.atheistcensus.com/">Atheist Census</a>.<br />
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Be counted! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/452121821518323/">Join the event</a>.Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-12456376684637096802012-11-03T22:00:00.000+08:002012-12-19T10:17:34.340+08:00Sex, Death And The Meaning Of LifeRichard Dawkins has a new series documentary. To date, 3 episodes have aired and someone has uploaded them on Youtube.<br />
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The episodes are availiable on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkpEMbCIDPM28VK8-US73hRaEMR037_gC">this playlist</a>.Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2947985093081013482012-10-13T01:00:00.000+08:002012-10-12T22:54:45.645+08:00Evolution (AronRa)I frequently refer to AronRa's Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism series. And for some reason, I remembered the couple of evolution information heavy ones as the bulk of the series rather than just a part. <br />
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So, I rewatched them to set that straight. From the playlist: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960">Foundational Falsehood of Creationism</a>,<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-7d06HJSs&list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960&index=8&feature=plpp_video">8th FFoC</a>: On mutations and "information". This video explains mutations and creationist misconception of related concepts. Some interesting information on beneficial human mutations.<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfoje7jVJpU&feature=BFa&list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960">9th FFoC</a>: Transitional species. This one explains transitional forms.<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MXTBGcyNuc&feature=BFa&list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960">10th FFoC</a>: Introductory primer to cladistic phylogenetics. Two words: FUCKING AWESOME (to me anyways). The video attempts to condense that particular set of evidence for common ancestry.<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm277H3ot6Y&feature=BFa&list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960">11th FFoC</a>: This one deals with creationist misconceptions about speciation. Helpful to understanding common ancestry.<br />
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The other parts are great too. But they deal specifically with other creationist misconceptions/lies/fallacies; they are lighter on information on evolution.<br />
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For stuff on evolution by Aronra, they are consolidated in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL92B4753C7ECC5C33">this playlist</a>.<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-70139095007474318642012-10-12T17:00:00.000+08:002012-10-12T22:06:11.880+08:00Evolution (QualiaSoup)<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup?feature=g-u-u">QualiaSoup</a> uploaded a new version of his "Evolution" video.<br />
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It discusses 3 of the evidence for evolution in ourselves: our Chromosome 2 history, the Vitamin C pseudogene, endogenous retroviruses (ERVs). The last 2 videos deals what is not and is a missing link with cool examples.<br />
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Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-49111431686531430102012-10-02T12:00:00.000+08:002012-10-03T01:38:02.313+08:00Replying to Singaporean Creationists4 days ago, a creationist letter was published in the Voices section of TODAY. I was going to write a blog post for it but it was literally rehashing common creationist misconceptions of evolution -- boring shit.<br />
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The letter is: <a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC120928-0000055/Creationism-still-part-of-the-evolution-debate">Creationism still part of the evolution debate</a> -- reposted in full below (since I don't know if TODAY's online articles stays online).<br />
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I refer to the commentary "Theory of evolution in crisis - and it's a good thing" (Sept 7). There are problems with the idea that creationism has never posed an intellectual challenge to evolutionary thinking.<br />
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First, creationists do not pose a threat to scientific thinking. The founders of modern science and many modern scientists are creationists who study an orderly, non-random universe.<br />
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Dr Marc Kirschner of Harvard Medical School has remarked that almost all of biology over the last 100 years has proceeded independent of evolution.<br />
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In fact, evolution hinders medical discovery. The writer himself highlighted the crisis in traditional evolutionary thinking, which has been so dogmatic as to not even consider creationism as a viable option.<br />
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Whilst science comprises experimental and historical types, the issue of beginnings and the past falls within the latter and should not be accorded the same authority as the former.<br />
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Natural selection and mutation do not equate to evolution. <br />
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The former is a principle also recognised by creationists. It might explain the survival of the fittest, not the arrival of the fittest. One cannot modify a Mr Potato Head into a GI Joe.<br />
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How do genes "move" in sexual reproduction in higher animals? Do we presume that once moved, they can just be "absorbed"? <br />
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Does the recipient genome have the machinery or resources to process the "absorbed" gene?<br />
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The idea of two bacteria forming the first eukaryotic cell (the more complex cell type found in multicellular animals) is speculation.<br />
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How did life originate? Even if every atom in the universe were an experiment, with all the correct amino acids present for every possible molecular vibration in the supposed long age of the universe, not one average-sized functional protein would have formed.<br />
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So how did bacteria form? How did the DNA code, biochemical pathways, multicellular life and gender all originate?<br />
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There are more fundamental questions: From where do natural laws come? From where does logic come? These are non-material stuff but often taken for granted.</blockquote>
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A quick summary of the letter (in paragraphs): introduction; trivial; quote-mine; false, projection; false; misconception; expression of incredulity; expression of lack of study; expression of lack of study; lack of understanding of scientific terms; creationist "probabilities"; expression of lack of study; irrelevant, logic fail.<br />
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Fortunately, two awesome letters have been published in response to the truckload of "creationism".<br />
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One from the fine professors of our NTU School of Biological Sciences: <a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC121002-0000009/Profs-respond-to-debate-on-evolution,-creationism">Profs respond to debate on evolution, creationism</a><br />
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The letter "Creationism still part of the evolution debate" (Sept 28) reproduces some misunderstandings of the theory of evolution. Some fundamentals should be emphasised for the record.<br />
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The evolution of new species from pre-existing species is recognised as a fact, not a conjecture, by a great many scientists due to abundant, robust and mutually supporting evidence from multiple fields of science, and the absence of findings to the contrary.<br />
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We use the term "theory" in the scientific sense: We are certain that evolution has generated all life on Earth.<br />
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Our current inability to explain every detail of its processes does not disprove evolution, just as gravity cannot be denied despite an inability to explain fully how it works.<br />
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Disagreements on these details do not imply that the theory is shaky. To the contrary, disagreement between scientists in any field is the norm, the necessary outcome of vigorous inquiry and an impetus to refine our knowledge through further investigation.<br />
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For the broader review this question deserves, we refer interested readers to Science and Creationism, and Science, Evolution and Creationism from the National Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Medicine of the National Academies in the United States.<br />
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Both documents are free for downloading. We also recommend the book Why Evolution is True, the related blog by Professor Jerry A Coyne and many other books on the subject.</blockquote>
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That addressed mostly the lack of understanding for scientific method, terms and process.<br />
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Thank you professors.<br />
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The other letter is from the Humanist Society (Singapore): <span id="goog_162120901"></span><a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC121002-0000010/Creationism-yet-to-earn-intellectual-spurs">Creationism yet to earn intellectual spurs<span id="goog_162120902"></span></a><br />
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We refer to Dr Luke Tan's letter "Creationism still part of the evolution debate" (Sept 28). Several Humanist Society (Singapore) members read with alarm Dr Tan's claims about evolution, and creationism as its intellectual challenge in modern biology.<br />
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Evolution is the unifying theory of biology. So, it was surprising to read the assertion that Harvard Medical School's Mark Kirschner claimed that evolution had played only a minor role in the last 100 years of biology.<br />
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We contacted Dr Kirschner for verification and, as it turned out, his quote, taken from a Boston Globe article in 2005, was a lament that evolution has not been a more integral part of biology. Also, he noted that "broadening the inquiry into evolution beyond natural history and population genetics only adds more evidence for evolution and explains more of the mechanistic transitions".<br />
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"We thought of that because the molecular, cellular and developmental insights very much increase our appreciation and confidence in evolution."<br />
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While Dr Tan's letter rehashes several misconceptions, there is no scientific debate over evolution's validity. The wealth of experimental and observational evidence in its favour is astounding; the only objections to evolution are theological.<br />
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The theory of evolution accounts for the origins of species, not life, as he implied. To claim evolutionary biologists have been dogmatically rejecting creationism as a viable option is to suggest creationists have been putting forth viable evidence to no avail.<br />
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There is no international conspiracy spanning two centuries; there is just no evidence. The theory of evolution is part of an experimental science: Biology. The experimental-historical boundary that he perceived is artificial.<br />
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Even if the theory of evolution is overturned, however unlikely that may be, creationism will not become the default explanation for the origin of species. It must earn the title of intellectual challenger on its evidential merits.</blockquote>
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HSS' letter addresses the quote mined statement of Dr Kirschner and directly points out that creationism does not contribute to our knowledge AT ALL <i>even if the theory evolution is false</i>.<br />
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For those who are actually interested in learning, here's my recommendations.<br />
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Berkeley has some resources on <a href="http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01">Evolution 101</a> and <a href="http://undsci.berkeley.edu/">the Scientific Method</a>.<br />
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If you like textbooks, there are 3 sample chapters from <a href="http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/ridley/chapters.asp">Mark Ridley's Evolution</a> available online<br />
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And if you're a creationist who got most/all of your information from church, I don't know how to put it nicely... you've probably been thoroughly misinformed. In which case, do watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960">this playlist of AronRa's videos</a>. I can assure you this does not attack the belief in god -- it only attacks the lies that some unscrupulous men of god like to tell.<br />
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If videos ain't your thing, do check out TalkOrigins' <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/">Index of Creationist Claims</a>. If you heard it from creationists, it's there. They also have <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html">a couple of other pages</a> worth seeing.<br />
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Stay smart. Be well informed.Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-42591273728213309442012-09-17T12:00:00.000+08:002012-09-17T23:11:13.117+08:00I'm with Atheism+Before I begin describing Atheism+, let's look at what the atheism movement (also called the New Atheism) has been about.<br />
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1. Destigmatization of atheists/atheism<br />
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2. Separation of Church and State (Secularism)<br />
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3. Antireligion & antitheism<br />
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4. Humanism (Social justice issues - women's rights, LGBT rights etc)<br />
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5. Skepticism and promotion of Science & Reason<br />
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Note that these stances are not derived from mere "dictionary" atheism, ie the lack of belief in the existence of god(s). This shouldn't be an issue at all.<br />
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Atheists in the atheist movement may focus on different aspects -- some are apathetic to certain stances or even opposed to them. For example, some atheists may be for (1), (2), (3), (5) but against (4) because they're misognistic or homophobic. To be sure, they ARE atheists but they certainly are not with Atheism+.<br />
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Atheism+ is essentially a rallying label -- a subset of atheists who are on board with ALL 5 stances and want to be active in the movement. In particular, the (4) is the main driver for this new rallying point -- a call to work towards repairing the damage done by religion in the social sphere.<br />
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<b>Why not call yourself a Secular Humanist?</b><br />
I am. <br />
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Secular Humanism is on board with stances (1), (2), (4), (5) but not (3). Traditionally, Secular Humanist organizations are hesitant on the antitheistic-antireligion front -- preferring to stay friendly with non-extremist religious groups. Their primary focus tend to be with (2), (4) and (5). <br />
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This I am not so enthusiastic about. I am an antitheistic-antireligious Secular Humanist. If their organizations won't be a platform for those views then I'll have to find one. And that would be Atheism+.<br />
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<b>Also, about theistic-atheistic Skeptics divide...</b><br />
And like the Secular Humanists, the skeptical organizations also tend to be of the same nature -- avoiding hostility with theistic factions.<br />
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Honestly, I, for one, do not think that a theist is a skeptic. A theist can be skeptical -- but cannot be said to be a skeptic if he/she is not applying skepticism to ALL claims including the theistic claims they accept without good evidence.<br />
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With both the Secular humanists and skeptics pussyfooting in the realm of antitheism and antireligion, the humanistic-skeptic-atheists need their own platform -- and that would be Atheism+.<br />
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<b>Is Atheism+ divisive?</b><br />
I don't think so. I'm not sure how it can be.<br />
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To be sure, we're not redefining atheism. If you don't believe in god(s), you're an atheist -- nothing to do with the 5 stances. That's why there's a "+" -- it signifies "in addition to" as in 5 stances in addition being just an atheist.<br />
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Is it a "schism"? Nope. Not really. Prior to the label, there has always been atheists who may or may not be on board with all 5 stances within the movement. That didn't cause a divide. Now there's a label to rally those that are on board with all 5 stances to do some work/activism. If having different interests/focus qualifies as a schism, then yea -- but I couldn't care for that sort of wordplay.<br />
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I'll put it this way. I have always been an Atheist+. There just wasn't the label.<br />
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If you like listening podcasts, consider checking out the <a href="http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/2012/09/12/episode-221/">Godless Bitches podcast</a> done with Greta Christina at the AAA national convention on this topic.Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-15579574133567151172012-09-16T12:31:00.000+08:002012-09-17T23:06:30.473+08:00How "unfettered"?Oh dear. It seems that my Singapore doesn't seem to see the difference between criticism and hate speech. <br />
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Channel News Asia has <a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1226003/1/.html">this article</a>:<br />
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SINGAPORE: Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Home Affairs Teo Chee Hean said freedom of expression does not mean that one has unfettered rights to insult and denigrate another's religion or race.<br />
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Rather, this freedom must be safeguarded through mutual respect of the views and beliefs of others.<br />
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Commenting on the film "Innocence of Muslims", Mr Teo said in a statement that it is also wrong and counterproductive to respond to this inflammatory and offensive film with violence.<br />
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Mr Teo said he is confident that Singaporeans will react to this film in the same rational and calm manner as they have done previously.<br />
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He added that "we should not let events overseas undermine the peaceful and harmonious relationships built up over the years in Singapore". </blockquote>
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I'm pretty sure I disagree (the comment on freedom of expression).<br />
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See the following two statements:<br />
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"Religious group X are human garbage / should all be shot dead / do not deserve equal rights."<br />
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"Religious group Y beliefs are factually wrong / evidentially unsupported / just ridiculous."</blockquote>
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The law might justifiably come down against the former sort of statements. However, the latter should be "unfettered". It's the difference between hate speech and criticism -- and freedom of religion does not exempt one from criticism. You do not have the right to not be offended. <br />
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Ideally, sane people would never go so far as to riot and kill over being "offended". Yet, religious people do. The right thing to do is to jail the rioters -- not impinge on freedom of expression. Offensive speech would be regulated at a social level -- not legally. Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-39174927089386684752012-09-15T11:30:00.000+08:002012-09-17T22:23:24.085+08:00The Violent Religion of PeaceA scourge of protests spread across the world, the Middle East in particular, over an amateurish anti-Islamic film. At the time of writing, the film is still available on Youtube (Yay Youtube!).<br />
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The Guardian has a summary + timeline of the events <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/sep/14/friday-protests-anti-islam-us-film-live">here</a>.<br />
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Here are some excerpts of a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/4-arrested-as-official-describes-2-pronged-militant-operation-in-us-consulate-attack/2012/09/13/c329c9f8-fe1e-11e1-98c6-ec0a0a93f8eb_story.html">news report</a> by the Washington Post on the extent of the damage done by these protesters.<br />
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CAIRO — Angry protests over an anti-Islam film spread across the Muslim world Friday, with demonstrators scaling the walls of U.S. embassies in Tunisia and Sudan, torching part of a German embassy and clashing with police in violence that left at least four dead. </blockquote>
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It was a dramatic expansion of protests that began earlier this week and saw assaults on the U.S. embassies in Egypt and Yemen and the storming of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.</blockquote>
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Several thousand battled with Tunisian security forces outside the U.S. Embassy in Tunis... Some protesters scaled the embassy wall and stood on top of it, planting the Islamist flag that has become a symbol of the wave of protests: A black banner with the Islamic profession of faith, “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.”<br />
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Police chased them off the wall and took the flag down. Two protesters were killed and 29 people were wounded, including police.</blockquote>
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Soon after, several hundred Sudanese stormed into the German Embassy, setting part of an embassy building aflame along with trash bins and a parked car. Protesters danced and celebrated around the burning barrels as palls of black smoke billowed into the sky... </blockquote>
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Gunmen waving the black Islamist banner and shouting “God is great” stormed into the base, firing automatic weapons. They set fire to vehicles and battled with peacekeepers inside...<br />
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Four Colombian peacekeepers were wounded and were evacuated to Israel. </blockquote>
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Elsewhere, one protester was killed in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli in clashes with security forces, after a crowd of protesters set fire to a KFC and a Hardee’s restaurant. Protesters hurled stones and glass at police in a furious melee that left 25 people wounded, 18 of them police.</blockquote>
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A day earlier, hundreds of protesters chanting “death to America” stormed the embassy compound in Sanaa and burned the American flag. Four protesters were killed and 38 people wounded in that incident when police tried to clear the crowd, the Interior Ministry said Friday. The embassy said no staff was harmed. </blockquote>
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My thoughts on this? It's nuts. <i>IT IS FUCKING NUTS</i>.<br />
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It is one thing to express your dislike or disagreement of something that "offends" you; That's exercising your freedom of expression. But, my gosh, it's a whole other thing to harm people and destroy property because you're offended.<br />
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And no, just because it's <i>religious</i> sensibilities that are being offended doesn't excuse such unhinged behavior.<br />
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The fault is wholly and squarely on the Muslim rioters. There is no blood on the video producer's hands.<br />
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It should be made clear that if there is an attempt to censor the video, it should be made because we're dealing with a bunch of religious primates and not because the video is "offensive to religious sensitivities".Atheozoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-63005827915147953022012-07-15T11:30:00.000+08:002012-07-15T13:01:28.670+08:00SecularismBrilliant video on secularism by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup?feature=watch">QualiaSoup</a>.<br />
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