<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234</id><updated>2012-02-09T23:47:03.132+08:00</updated><category term='Mail'/><category term='Pseudoscience'/><category term='Islam'/><category term='Videos (Others)'/><category term='Arguments'/><category term='Responses'/><category term='Scientists'/><category term='Atheist Experience'/><category term='Secularism'/><category term='Book Bits'/><category term='Videos (Religion)'/><category term='Absurdities'/><category term='God(s)'/><category term='Religious harm'/><category term='Philosophy'/><category term='Skepticism'/><category term='Belief'/><category term='Spiritual'/><category term='Science'/><category term='Richard Dawkins'/><category term='Secular Humanism'/><category term='Creationism'/><category term='Politics'/><category term='Forum'/><category term='Morality'/><category term='Atheism'/><category term='Singapore'/><category term='Evolution'/><category term='PZ Myers'/><category term='Singaporean'/><category term='Videos (Science)'/><category term='Bible'/><category term='Abiogenesis'/><category term='Quran'/><category term='Atheozoa'/><category term='Christianity'/><category term='About Me'/><category term='History'/><category term='Ignorance'/><category term='Superstition'/><category term='Articles'/><category term='New Age'/><category term='Education'/><category term='Religion'/><category term='News'/><category term='Equality'/><category term='Current Affairs'/><category term='Books'/><title type='text'>Atheozoa</title><subtitle type='html'>Atheist ▪ Skeptic ▪ Humanist ▪ Singaporean</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>217</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4825311679605371243</id><published>2012-02-09T19:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2012-02-09T23:46:12.346+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheozoa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>New Videos and Playlists</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TrustingDoubt/featured"&gt;TrustingDoubt&lt;/a&gt; has uploaded the seventh part of her God's Emotions series which explores Christian concepts of god using affective science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xwi03ufhxBk" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Youtube Channel update&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After updating the layout and phasing out the Favorites section of my Youtube Channel, a couple of new playlists has been added to organize some of the videos retained from the favorites "playlist".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL655D53E13A0D7B69&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;QualiaSoup and TheraminTrees&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This playlist contains a majority of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup?feature=watch"&gt;QualiaSoup&lt;/a&gt;'s videos and a handful of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheraminTrees?feature=watch"&gt;TheraminTrees&lt;/a&gt; pertaining to topics such as skepticism, science, religion and atheism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL309729866888CEA2&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Psychology of Belief&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A 10 part series created by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AntiCitizenX?feature=watch"&gt;AntiCitizenX&lt;/a&gt;. It explores how belief is generated and various cognitive biases and how they relate to belief in god(s).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD4D67468DDB4F43B&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Discovering Religion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This series created by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringReligion?feature=watch"&gt;DiscoveringReligion&lt;/a&gt; explores creationism, evolution, religious influence on government and morality. As of now, it has 22 episodes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL92B4753C7ECC5C33&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;AronRa Evolution Videos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aside from his &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Foundational Falsehood of Creationism&lt;/a&gt; series, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa?feature=watch"&gt;AronRa&lt;/a&gt; has a number of videos pertaining to evolution. Like his series, these videos are content heavy, very interesting and educational.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL658885851A5E7B23&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Evid3nc3 Series: Atheism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A playlist consisting part of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3?feature=watch"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt;'s series that pertains to atheism. Personally, the highlight of the series so far is the video: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg&amp;amp;list=PL658885851A5E7B23"&gt;A History of God&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7192C3E2AF01A942&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Animated Arguments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A playlist of videos of standalone animated "arguments" by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525?feature=watch"&gt;DarkMatter2525&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1F6F8E2CD0DF0D85&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;"There are no gods"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 videos, 40 minutes. This is a response series by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheraminTrees?feature=watch"&gt;TheraminTrees&lt;/a&gt; addressing concepts of god he once accepted and now rejects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2A98B16EFF58B7A9&amp;amp;feature=view_all"&gt;Old Testament Gods - AETV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 episodes of the &lt;a href="http://atheist-experience.com/"&gt;Atheist Experience TV show&lt;/a&gt; on the topic of Old Testament gods. Spanning more than 4 hours, Tracie explores the OT pantheon (El, Asherah, etc) with Matt while answering calls intermittently.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4825311679605371243?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4825311679605371243/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4825311679605371243&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4825311679605371243'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4825311679605371243'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2012/02/new-videos-and-playlists.html' title='New Videos and Playlists'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Xwi03ufhxBk/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6674081080118650458</id><published>2012-01-28T18:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2012-02-09T23:33:50.975+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheozoa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>Channel Update</title><content type='html'>Just a note. The Atheozoa Youtube channel has been updated with the new layout format.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As such, the favorite videos section has been phased out (the Favorites playlist is just plain too messy to feature). Also, the new layout removed the "Subscriptions" section and replaced it with the "Featured Channels" section where I have only put up a couple of channels at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One nice new feature is the "Featured Playlists" section where I've put up the the higher quality video series by several Youtubers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do check out the channel at: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Atheozoa?feature=mhee"&gt;Channel Atheozoa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6674081080118650458?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6674081080118650458/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6674081080118650458&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6674081080118650458'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6674081080118650458'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2012/01/channel-update.html' title='Channel Update'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-7792017256702141447</id><published>2012-01-24T12:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2012-01-29T23:52:13.444+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Equating Strong with Weak</title><content type='html'>It is almost as if it is a trend to accuse atheists of strong atheism despite repeated clarification that we generally espoused weak atheism. And I'm not talking about religious fundamentalists -- it's moderates and even freaking "agnostics".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An article by a "Christian agnostic", titled "&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christian-piatt/atheism-a-null-hypothesis_b_1208844.html"&gt;Atheism: Null Hypothesis on God&lt;/a&gt;", makes a similar point. He didn't point fingers but makes a rather explicit indication that the atheists currently in the public forum are strong atheists and that they should be weak atheists if they're reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article has the typical misunderstanding of what atheism and agnosticism is. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;And that's why I struggle to understand atheism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Etymologically, atheism has similar Greek roots to agnosticism, coming from the words "a-theos" which means "no God" or "without God." This implies the same kind of certitude that a religious fundamentalist might claim is arguing they "know without any doubt that God exists." Based on what? Either of you? There is no way to prove or disprove the existence of God. Especially when we can't even nail down what exactly it is we're talking about.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, screw the etymology. That is beside the point. I've seen rather pointless arguments over whether "atheism" means "without belief in gods" or "belief in no gods" when the actual point is whether the atheist is or is not a strong atheist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, the common usage of the word "atheism" by atheists who use the label is &lt;i&gt;weak &lt;/i&gt;atheism. That is "without belief in god". It is not an assertion that gods do not exist but a rejection of theism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Third. I am pretty sure that if he have indeed talked to atheists, most would be quite okay, or even happy, to admit that their position is not held with absolute certainty (unlike religious fundamentalists).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fourth. Disproving god can be done if the said entity explicitly contradicts with observed reality or is logically contradictory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fifth. Using vague ass definition of god to argue the case is kinda dishonest. With close to half of the American population subscribing to some form of creationism and a portion of those believing in a god who poofs all of existence into existence with incantations, I don't know what "nailing down" the author is talking about. The nutjobs' gods? We can nail down and dead actually -- they are the most pressing problem we're dealing with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Now, I'm not a scientist, but it makes perfect sense within this model to have the "null hypothesis" that God doesn't exist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, to leap from that to certitude of God's non-existence is to violate the principles of the scientific method, isn't it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh look. Weak atheism is philosophically tenable and strong atheism is too unreasonable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gee. Who knew? Fucking old news.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;It seems to me, to paraphrase Paul (like Huxley), that we risk becoming that which we hate in staking claims of certainty on either side of this issue. In pushing back primarily against religious fundamentalism, atheism risks embracing the very fundamentalism it resists. And in doing so, it abandons the very principles of science it claims as the basis for non-belief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know if God exists. You don't know if God doesn't exist. But if scientists can not only coexist on both sides of a hypothesis, but even use that difference to promote progress, it seems we can and should apply similar principles to the public forum. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is he completely in the dark that atheists generally espouse weak atheism? Or is that an implicit accusation that atheists shouldn't be strong atheists (because he thinks we currently are)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Either way, that sounds like a very uninformed piece trying to sound educated. Ughhh...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-7792017256702141447?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/7792017256702141447/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=7792017256702141447&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7792017256702141447'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7792017256702141447'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2012/01/equating-strong-with-weak.html' title='Equating Strong with Weak'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-9133292557493817471</id><published>2012-01-21T10:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T11:29:15.905+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secularism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Indonesian beaten and faces jail for his atheism</title><content type='html'>Once again, bigots in Indonesia and its government are exercising their religious intolerance. An Indonesian civil servant, who created a Facebook page where he discusses his disbelief with other like minded people, was beaten by a mob for posting "God doesn't exist" and now faces jail for "blasphemy".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/20/10200732-indonesia-man-attacked-by-mob-faces-jail-for-writing-god-doesnt-exist-on-facebook"&gt;MSNBC&lt;/a&gt; reports:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;PADANG, Indonesia -- A 30-year-old Indonesian civil servant who was viciously attacked by a mob after posting on Facebook that "God doesn't exist" is now threatened with jail time for blasphemy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“He has triggered unrest among local residents," Dharmasraya Police Chief Chairul Aziz told &lt;a href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/01/20/atheist-civil-servant-arrested-blasphemy.html"&gt;The Jakarta Post&lt;/a&gt; on Friday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The man, identified as Alexander, was arrested Friday on charges of blasphemy for his writings on his Facebook page. He had created a Facebook fan page titled Ateis Minang (Minang Atheist) and gained more than 1,238 Facebook "likes" before it was taken down from the social network site, according to the Post. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On his page, Alexander wrote about his Muslim upbringing, how he didn't believe in angels, demons, heaven or hell and how he stopped practicing his faith in 2008, according to media reports. He posted comments regarding the Islamic faith, including "God doesn't exist" and "If God exists, why do bad things happen? There should only be good things if God is merciful."&lt;br /&gt;advertisement&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aziz said Indonesia's Council of Ulema, the ruling Islamic authority, charged Alexander with defiling Islam by using passages from the Quran to denounce God, &lt;a href="http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/atheist_indonesian_in_protective_custody_after_being_beaten_by_mob"&gt;The Telegraph&lt;/a&gt; reported on Friday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If convicted of blasphemy, Alexander could face up to five years in prison.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dozens of residents in his hometown in Pulau Punjung, West Sumatra province, stormed into Alexander's office on Wednesday and carried on their heated debate over religion, police said. Alexander was beaten, including by some of his colleagues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dharmasraya Regent Adi Gunawan told the Jakarta Post Alexander he has not taken any action to remove the man from his job on the planning board.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I will await the legal process and decide later about his employment status,” Adi told the newspaper.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, this demonstrates one of the reasons for needing a separation of church (in this case, mosque) and state. There should be no laws that discriminate against religious or non-religious persons. The "blasphemy" law is utter nonsense -- an infringement on basic freedom of speech -- wherein blaspheming literally harms no one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, this also shows that those bigots worship a little god. Their version of Allah is so helpless that its followers must intervene on his behalf to punish persons who dare use their brain in a skeptical manner. Blasphemy laws do not demonstrate a glorious deity -- they demonstrate a little vain one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, the fact that a mob actually bashed a civil servant for expressing his disbelief on an FB page for atheists is just ludicrous. The intolerance, while expected from a country like Indonesia, is still nonetheless breathtaking. Actually, I'm using the word wrong: It's not intolerance, it's discrimination. Beating someone and legally imprisoning someone for differences in opinion is active discrimination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is yet another demonstration why atheists will not ever settle for silence again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is NO god. Grow up.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-9133292557493817471?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/9133292557493817471/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=9133292557493817471&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9133292557493817471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9133292557493817471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2012/01/indonesian-civil-servant-beaten-and.html' title='Indonesian beaten and faces jail for his atheism'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8529823673608328097</id><published>2012-01-08T18:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2012-01-09T22:54:12.083+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Evid3nc3 and TrustingDoubt</title><content type='html'>Two new videos has been added. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3/featured"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt; continues his long running series with a video addressing the objections to Evidentialism (addressed in the previous video).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/14JavH4Rk7k" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TrustingDoubt/featured"&gt;TrustingDoubt&lt;/a&gt; has yet another interesting video addressing the anthropomorphic god of Abraham from the psychological perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IHLIgF7p-lU" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8529823673608328097?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8529823673608328097/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8529823673608328097&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8529823673608328097'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8529823673608328097'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2012/01/evid3nc3-and-trustingdoubt.html' title='Evid3nc3 and TrustingDoubt'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/14JavH4Rk7k/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4756794727320521719</id><published>2011-12-26T22:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-27T11:01:28.091+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religious harm'/><title type='text'>Seriously MOE? Abstinence?</title><content type='html'>At the time of writing, the following two news articles reported the Ministry of Education's drafting of a revised Sexuality Education Programme (SEP):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;From &lt;a href="http://sg.news.yahoo.com/a-new-focus-on-sexual-abstinence.html"&gt;Yahoo! News (SG)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;A new focus on sexual abstinence&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ministry of Education (MOE) has drafted a revised Sexuality Education Programme (SEP) to boost emphasis on abstinence over contraception, reported The New Paper (TNP).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new programme, Breaking Down Bridges (BDB), will be taught to Secondary 3, first-year junior college and centralised institute students, said the paper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TNP also reported that the old programme faced some criticism from some Catholics due to the emphasis on using contraception, and the lack of awareness given to abstaining from sex. While it understands from MOE that the new programme will be ready in 2012, no details have yet been confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An MOE spokesperson told TNP that the revamp is part of its "periodic review" of the SEP curriculum to "ensure that it is updated and relevant" to students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents of students in Catholic schools in Singapore welcomed the change to the programme.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yahoo! Singapore spoke to Marilyn Koh, 47, a Catholic whose son attends a Catholic school, "I'm really looking forward to MOE changing their focus on the SEP. I was not very comfortable with the previous curriculum as it was not catered to Catholic teachings."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Francis Chan, who also has a son in a Catholic school, agreed with the change, "It's a lot more appropriate for Catholic schools to be teaching the children to abstain from sex, instead of promoting contraception. I'm perfectly fine with the current programme running in a secular school, but Catholic schools should be imparting Catholic values, right?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Online article by &lt;a href="http://www.tnp.sg/content/sex-ed-revision-sparks-questions"&gt;The New Paper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sex-ed revision sparks questions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CONTRACEPTION may have to give some way to abstinence in a revised version of a Sexuality Education Programme (SEP) here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The New Paper understands that a draft of this revised SEP for all schools here has already been drawn up – and that the 30 or more Catholic Schools here should find fewer issues with it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some communities find sections of the current programme overly promote the use of contraception, and lack emphasis on abstinence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are especially offended by a video showing how a condom should be used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others, however, are concerned about what the refreshed programme will entail.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The articles are not clear about what is meant by "&lt;i&gt;boost emphasis on abstinence over contraception&lt;/i&gt;" and "&lt;i&gt;contraception may have to give some way to abstinence&lt;/i&gt;". Is MOE adding some emphasis to sexual abstinence, reallocating emphasis to abstinence away from contraception or actually going for the "abstinence only" nonsense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, why is Catholicism explicitly brought up in the articles? Again, is MOE placing additional weight on the "moral teachings" of Catholics over the well being of ALL students? No religion should hold sway over the secular (sexual or otherwise) education of students through their own religious teaching. There should be no sectarian bias in any of MOE's education programmes &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another point: Shouldn't sexual education be primarily decided by the Health Promotion Board instead? I'd think that sex ed. should be taught based on the science and data instead of religious "morals".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, MOE, whatcha doing actually?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4756794727320521719?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4756794727320521719/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4756794727320521719&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4756794727320521719'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4756794727320521719'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/12/seriously-moe-abstinence.html' title='Seriously MOE? Abstinence?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-7182499865094438947</id><published>2011-12-16T19:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-17T21:42:58.425+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Farewell, Hitchens</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/arts/christopher-hitchens-is-dead-at-62-obituary.html"&gt;Farewell&lt;/a&gt;, Christopher Hitchens (1949-2011)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Here's a video (by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt;) in memory of Hitchens.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D-ZUXyGWvJY" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-7182499865094438947?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/7182499865094438947/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=7182499865094438947&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7182499865094438947'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7182499865094438947'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/12/farewell-hitchens.html' title='Farewell, Hitchens'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/D-ZUXyGWvJY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5212961170776410014</id><published>2011-12-04T12:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-04T12:42:37.672+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>Creationism Attack on Singapore</title><content type='html'>It has just come to my attention that Singapore is actually one of the 7 countries targeted by Creation Ministries International's &lt;a href="http://creationrevolution.com/2011/08/question-evolution/"&gt;"Question Evolution" campaign&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if any Singaporeans has visited my blog, please be aware of this piece of religious nonsense attempting to spread itself further within our communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more information and resources on the alleged Evolution-Creationism controversy, do visit the following sites:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://ncse.com/creationism"&gt;National Center for Science Education&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;(USA)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;This US non-prophet organization has been defending the scientific theory of evolution for more than 2 decades. Check the site out for information pertaining to anti-Evolution movements by creationists in the US.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/"&gt;TalkOrigins Archive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;The TalkOrigins archive is home to the Index of Creationist Claims where practically all creationists claims has been answered/refuted. This is a quick resource for people looking for answers from mainstream science about creationists' "questions".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Atheozoa#grid/user/B395BA14F3BC6B59"&gt;Judgement Day - Intelligent Design on Trial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Creationism's pseudoscientific disguise, Intelligent Design, has been demolished in a federal court. The event was made into a NOVA documentary. This is worth a watch!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLB395BA14F3BC6B59&amp;amp;hl=en_US" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/question-evolution-answers.html"&gt;Question Evolution: Answers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;15+1 Youtubers, Christians and non-believers, has put together a 4 part video series to answer/rebut the 15 questions from the Question Evolution Campaign. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Atheozoa#grid/user/D5B7ECF5976AE960"&gt;Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;For those who enjoy being immersed in a stream of information, check out AronRa's Foundational Falsehood of Creationism series on Youtube.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLD5B7ECF5976AE960&amp;amp;hl=en_US" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5212961170776410014?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5212961170776410014/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5212961170776410014&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5212961170776410014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5212961170776410014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/12/creationism-attack-on-singapore.html' title='Creationism Attack on Singapore'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/videoseries/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3009955021753401672</id><published>2011-12-03T01:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-07T21:50:50.461+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheist Experience'/><title type='text'>Godless Bitches!</title><content type='html'>Just realized that I linked the Godless Bitches Podcast without making a post about them. So here it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/mf/web/g3u8vv/gb24.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/"&gt;Godless Bitches Podcast&lt;/a&gt; is a podcast by the women of the ACA (Atheist Community of Austin) which also sponsors the Atheist Experience and the Non-prophets radio podcasts. The Godless Bitches podcast tackles feminist issues from a secular perspective and is regularly contributed by Beth Pressword, Jen Peeples, Tracie Harris and Lynnea Glasser.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find myself enjoying the podcast a lot. The recent &lt;a href="http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/2011/11/21/episode-111/"&gt;Episode 1.11&lt;/a&gt; (embedded below) was hilarious (Tracie Harris rocked the show).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;object align="middle" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" height="25" id="mp3playerdarksmallv3" width="210"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.podbean.com/podcast-audio-video-blog-player/mp3playerdarksmallv3.swf?audioPath=http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/mf/play/fkzu95/GodlessBitches111.mp3&amp;amp;autoStart=no" /&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" /&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent" /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.podbean.com/podcast-audio-video-blog-player/mp3playerdarksmallv3.swf?audioPath=http://godlessbitches.podbean.com/mf/play/fkzu95/GodlessBitches111.mp3&amp;amp;autoStart=no" quality="high"&amp;nbsp; width="210" height="25" name="mp3playerdarksmallv3" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So check it out!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3009955021753401672?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3009955021753401672/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3009955021753401672&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3009955021753401672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3009955021753401672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/12/godless-bitches.html' title='Godless Bitches!'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-862252792161809863</id><published>2011-12-02T11:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-05T15:51:37.299+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religious harm'/><title type='text'>Religious harm (in the news)</title><content type='html'>I haven't writing any articles lately. Frankly, it's because there's not that much to write about when all of religion can be defeated with "&lt;i&gt;Where is your fucking evidence?&lt;/i&gt;" (PS: "You must have FAITH!" is not a valid response.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One other thing that is frequently propped up to save their religion is how much good it does. And if they want to play the weighing game, let's look at all the unnecessary harm attributable or contributed by religious idiocy. We don't have to look far at all. Just look at this past week-or-so's news -- we'll start with today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-rape-victim-freed-jail-marry-attacker-021706474.html"&gt;Dec 2, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;Afghan rape victim freed from jail, to marry attacker&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;The Afghan President Hamid Karzai has ordered the release of a woman who was jailed for adultery after being raped -- but she now faces having to marry her attacker, officials said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The move came after some 5,000 people signed a petition for the release of the woman, named Gulnaz, who has served two years in prison after a relative raped her at her home. She has been raising the child she had by her attacker in a prison cell in Kabul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......But the officials also said that Gulnaz should marry the man who attacked her, due to fears she could be in danger if released because of the stigma surrounding her attack in Afghanistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She consented to the union, Faizi said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"She agreed to the marriage but only if his (the attacker's) sister marries Gulnaz's brother," the spokesman added, explaining that this was a way to try and ensure Gulnaz was not attacked by the man in future.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Raped. Imprisoned for "adultery". Bore a child from the rape. Released to marry your rapist. Had to have the caveat that your rapist's sister be married to your brother to protect yourself from probable attacks in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is one very very sad state of affairs ENTIRELY brought about by Shariah law and a society soaked in Islam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-police-killing-sparks-sectarian-clash-213553803.html"&gt;Nov 28, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;Egypt police: Killing sparks sectarian clash&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Police say that a Muslim has been killed by a Christian in southern Egypt, sparking a sectarian clash, and the military has intervened to stop the violence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......The director of security for the province of Sohag, Gen. Abdel al-Aziz al-Nahas, said the village of al-Ghureizat was under a police and army cordon Monday night following the death of a Muslim earlier in a fight with his neighbor. The conflict was about the building of a wall.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A sectarian clash over a murder over a conflict about building a wall. The divisive nature of religion really shines through this one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/4-dead-churches-burned-north-nigeria-attack-132942451.html"&gt;Nov 27, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;4 dead, churches burned in north Nigeria attack&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Witnesses and authorities say at least four people died in an apparent attack on a northeast Nigeria city that saw churches and businesses burned to the ground.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......Witnesses say attackers blew up a local police station and attacked a bank, as well as set fire to businesses and at least eight churches.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More tribalistic behavior attributable to religious division.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/culture-lifestyle/world-religion/111126/pope-all-society-not-just-church-must-be-held-"&gt;Nov 26, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;Pope says all society, not just church, must be held to same standards against sex abuse&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Pope Benedict XVI said all society must be held to the same standards against sexual child abuse and defended the Catholic church’s response in handling the series of child abuse scandals that have marred their institution starting in the 1980s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benedict made the statement on Saturday at the Vatican in remarks to visiting US bishops, insisting the “scourge” of pedophilia is a problem for every institution, the Associated Press reported. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Pope, the rest of society has been held to &lt;i&gt;higher standards&lt;/i&gt; compared to your church. We don't hide our pedophiles and send them off to other locations to rape more kids -- you DO. Now fuck off the moral high ground you stole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/churches-told-dying-patients-were-cured-034935993.html"&gt;Nov 25, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;Churches told dying patients they were cured&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;At least six people have died in Britain after being told that they had been healed of HIV, and could stop taking their medication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is evidence that evangelical churches in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Glasgow are claiming to cure HIV through God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We sent three undercover reporters into the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) , which is based in Southwark, south London. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of them told the pastors that they were HIV positive. All were told that they could be healed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christians performing subtle genocide against HIV patients amongst their own. That's some crazy shit there. What can I say? Faith is glorified ignorance and ignorance can kill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/several-killed-nigeria-religious-clashes-135440277.html"&gt;Nov 24, 2011&lt;/a&gt; -- &lt;b&gt;Christian-Muslim clashes Nigeria kill at least 12&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Clashes between Muslim and Christian ethnic groups in central Nigeria have killed at least 12 people and left "enormous" destruction, including houses burned, officials said on Thursday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......A resident who did not want to be named said churches and an Islamic school were also burned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......The clashes appeared to result from reprisals carried out over killings that had occurred several days ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......The area has been caught in a deadly cycle of attacks and reprisals that have regularly flared up for years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beroms and other mainly Christian ethnic groups are viewed as the indigenes in the area, while Hausa-Fulani Muslims are seen as the more recent "settlers" despite the fact that many have been there for decades.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Policies that favour indigenous groups when it comes to such issues as patronage and jobs have created animosity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In turn, Beroms fear that Hausas -- a much larger ethnic group throughout Nigeria as a whole -- will eventually be allowed to dominate an area they see as their own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many say the crisis has been fueled by politicians in a local struggle for political and economic gain, but religious sentiments are increasingly being stirred as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years of violence over arbitrarily defined division along religious lines. Again, tribal behavior facilitated by religious division.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion -- Creating unnecessary problems since conception.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-862252792161809863?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/862252792161809863/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=862252792161809863&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/862252792161809863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/862252792161809863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/12/religious-harm-on-news.html' title='Religious harm (in the news)'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2614742408150217706</id><published>2011-11-26T18:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-27T02:14:09.761+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scientists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Skepticism'/><title type='text'>The Pale Blue Dot - A Tribute to Carl Sagan</title><content type='html'>Here's tribute video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan"&gt;Carl Sagan&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KMjEVG2rrFQ" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perspective. Awe. And wonder.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2614742408150217706?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2614742408150217706/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2614742408150217706&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2614742408150217706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2614742408150217706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/pale-blue-dot-tribute-to-carl-sagan.html' title='The Pale Blue Dot - A Tribute to Carl Sagan'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/KMjEVG2rrFQ/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1136735905535000692</id><published>2011-11-13T20:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T21:01:07.418+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Skepticism'/><title type='text'>Examining the Existence of a Historical Jesus</title><content type='html'>Here is a presentation by David Fitzgerald at Skepticon 3 titled "Examining the Existence of a Historical Jesus". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MvleOBYTrDE" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this presentation, information about the historicity of Jesus is drawn from books on the subject and presented. It touches on the lack of contemporaneous extra-biblical evidence, the contradictions within the gospels themselves, the fact that none of the gospels were eye-witnesses, the difference between Paul's Jesus &amp;amp; the Jesus of the gospels and other interesting tidbits.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1136735905535000692?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1136735905535000692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1136735905535000692&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1136735905535000692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1136735905535000692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/examining-existence-of-historical-jesus.html' title='Examining the Existence of a Historical Jesus'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/MvleOBYTrDE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2663100987149634811</id><published>2011-11-11T15:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T21:02:45.539+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Why Science is Better Than Religion and Always Has Been</title><content type='html'>Also from Skepticon 1 is this presentation by Richard Carrier entitled: "Why Science is Better Than Religion and Always Has Been"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kyrKMIDSVYE" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2663100987149634811?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2663100987149634811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2663100987149634811&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2663100987149634811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2663100987149634811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-science-is-better-than-religion-and.html' title='Why Science is Better Than Religion and Always Has Been'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/kyrKMIDSVYE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6272844859881064527</id><published>2011-11-10T17:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-27T02:10:49.992+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scientists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>PZ Myers - Science Ed: Science vs Religion</title><content type='html'>Yea, this is old stuff. This is PZ Myers at Skepticon 1 back in 2008. It's kinda sad considering that it still applies after more than 2 years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/R0yxh85xRCY" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6272844859881064527?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6272844859881064527/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6272844859881064527&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6272844859881064527'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6272844859881064527'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/pz-myers-science-ed-science-vs-religon.html' title='PZ Myers - Science Ed: Science vs Religion'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/R0yxh85xRCY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3581827996392001815</id><published>2011-11-09T15:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-10T21:50:03.968+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PZ Myers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>PZ Myers at World Atheist Convention</title><content type='html'>An entertaining rant/speech by &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/"&gt;PZ Myers&lt;/a&gt; at the World Atheist Convention Ireland 2011.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GNYcqor5vQM" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 2: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiL8Xqf9w1o"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiL8Xqf9w1o&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 3: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHO3fVRLbA"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHO3fVRLbA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 4: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cun4VsQpQMU"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cun4VsQpQMU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 5: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-pML7cfV-o"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-pML7cfV-o&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3581827996392001815?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3581827996392001815/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3581827996392001815&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3581827996392001815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3581827996392001815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/pz-myers-at-world-atheist-convention.html' title='PZ Myers at World Atheist Convention'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/GNYcqor5vQM/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3670918931811846208</id><published>2011-11-08T00:30:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-08T00:30:03.264+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quran'/><title type='text'>Quran's factual origins</title><content type='html'>Just as I have come to know that the Bible is a translation of several books written by different authors, decades after the events which they purport to describe by non-eyewitnesses whose stories were transmitted by hearsay in the intervening decades, I am interested to know what real history has to say about the formation of the "holy" book known as the Qu'ran.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Lorientalist"&gt;L'Orientalist&lt;/a&gt; now has 2 videos with information pertaining to the topic and here they're.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Inimitable Qu'ran&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1fOIXwbVfVs" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Did the Umayyads change the Qu'ran?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AKl0gA35HaE" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The creator of the videos provides citation of the literature he uses on his blog linked in the information below the video itself on Youtube.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3670918931811846208?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3670918931811846208/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3670918931811846208&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3670918931811846208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3670918931811846208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/qurans-factual-origins.html' title='Quran&apos;s factual origins'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/1fOIXwbVfVs/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-9208539966688127925</id><published>2011-11-07T10:56:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T10:57:42.754+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Of objectivity and oughtness</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup"&gt;QualiaSoup&lt;/a&gt; has uploaded the third video of his series on morality: Of objectivity and oughtness. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe width="420" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sN-yLH4bXAI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-9208539966688127925?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/9208539966688127925/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=9208539966688127925&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9208539966688127925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9208539966688127925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/of-objectivity-and-oughtness.html' title='Of objectivity and oughtness'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/sN-yLH4bXAI/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3466830214428046115</id><published>2011-11-06T13:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-10T17:10:33.046+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Equality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>What's so Queer About Gay Marriage?</title><content type='html'>In this presentation, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/SisyphusRedeemed"&gt;SisyphusRedeemed&lt;/a&gt;, a philosopher on Youtube outlines four arguments against gay marriage, and argue why they don't work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe width="420" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tyX_uI9AdIE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those are the secular arguments. Religious arguments can go play with the other childish arguments while actual moral and legal arguments are discussed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes, I think Singapore is being, how do you put this..., &lt;i&gt;backwards&lt;/i&gt; for still having 377A.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;** On a side note, this happens to be my 200th entry.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3466830214428046115?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3466830214428046115/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3466830214428046115&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3466830214428046115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3466830214428046115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/whats-so-queer-about-gay-marriage.html' title='What&apos;s so Queer About Gay Marriage?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/tyX_uI9AdIE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-943826122780375715</id><published>2011-11-02T18:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T18:10:26.750+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Moral Absolutes and Morality</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringReligion"&gt;DiscoveringReligion&lt;/a&gt; has two videos up discussing further the religious idea of moral absolutes from their god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qFTM1FU4Xd4" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Iq0PvkB9jdY" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It echoes and expands the same idea I briefly mentioned in the last part of this blog entry: &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/morality-subjective-objective.html"&gt;Morality: Subjective, Objective&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-943826122780375715?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/943826122780375715/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=943826122780375715&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/943826122780375715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/943826122780375715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/moral-absolutes-and-morality.html' title='Moral Absolutes and Morality'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/qFTM1FU4Xd4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-342207905166685492</id><published>2011-11-01T18:30:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T18:21:15.065+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>L'Orientalist on Islam</title><content type='html'>A channel, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Lorientalist"&gt;L'Orientalist&lt;/a&gt;, with well referenced, clear content about Islam from a skeptic's perspective has come to my attention. I'd thought I'd post one of his videos here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="301" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/26o_EO0t4v0" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For liberal/moderate muslims, if you take issue with this video, may I ask, is it that the facts presented were incorrect or from the standpoint of your personal theological interpretation (in spite of the book's contents)? For the record, I only care about the former; the latter, not so much.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-342207905166685492?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/342207905166685492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=342207905166685492&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/342207905166685492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/342207905166685492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/11/lorientalist.html' title='L&apos;Orientalist on Islam'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/26o_EO0t4v0/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8301433674832413256</id><published>2011-10-29T14:30:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-29T14:35:55.764+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>Atheism versus God: How did the universe begin?</title><content type='html'>You sir are dead wrong about almost everything in the article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am referring to &lt;a href="http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/higher-things/2011/oct/28/atheism-versus-god-how-did-universe-begin/"&gt;this article: Atheism versus God: How did the universe begin?&lt;/a&gt; written by Vasko Kohlmayer in the Washington Times Communities. See the article if you wish to read the parts I truncated to maintain length. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;There are those who claim that to believe in God is not only unscientific, but also absurd.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is certainly not the case. To the contrary, it is the denial of God's existence that contradicts both science and common sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll grant you that common sense might indicate a god. But mind you, our intuitions about the actual mechanisms of the natural world has failed us many times. In fact, many scientific truths are counter-intuitive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what about science? No. As far as scientific evidence is concerned, there is not a SINGLE verifiable piece of evidence indicating the existence of a deity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;The prevailing scientific consensus today is that the universe began with the Big Bang. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Truncated -- some background on Big Bang theory] &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;The Big Bang theory describes the initial event as a great explosion which brought forth all the energy and matter in the universe. On this theory, the Big Bang was the beginning of all things. Prior to it, there was nothing: There were no particles, there was no matter. There was not even space or time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a note: The Big Bang theory does NOT claim that there was nothing in the beginning. Please see this previous post: &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/something-from-nothing_19.html"&gt;Something from Nothing?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unlike some creationist retards who make the retarded claim that atheists believe "something came from nothing", that is not the author's beef. So let's move on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Most of those who don't believe in God say that the Big Bang was a chance event. In other words, the great explosion that brought the universe into being was a cosmic fluke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this is an unsupportable position to take, because things just don't happen like that. Explosions – big or small – do not come about without someone or something causing them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's his main beef: atheists believe that the universe/Big Bang is &lt;i&gt;uncaused&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And he goes on to illustrate it,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;To illustrate, consider this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Truncated -- the analogy]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yet many atheists make precisely this kind of claim. They say that the greatest of all explosions just happened. On this view, the universe just popped into existence spontaneously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But does this make sense?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, explosions, as described, have known causes and we understand the mechanisms -- unlike the Big Bang.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But more importantly, no atheist claim that the Big Bang is therefore necessarily uncaused. In fact, the atheists that I've heard of thinks that the Big Bang has a cause --- they simply don't think invoking a deity explains anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Common sense and experience tell us that the world does not work like this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Truncated -- &lt;u&gt;lots&lt;/u&gt; of drama about a claim atheists do not make]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is, however, that in all of its history science has never observed or documented a single uncaused event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The atheistic position concerning the beginning of the universe thus goes not only against common sense and our everyday experience, but also against the axioms and observations of science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In light of this, it is the atheist's position that has an air of absurdness about it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, the caricature of our position is very absurd. That, I don't disagree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The huge irony here is that a majority of theists would claim that their god is an uncaused cause. So the absurdity that the author claims atheists believe sits squarely in his own court. All the drama about the absurdity of believing that something is uncaused applies to their god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, without a hint of irony, he goes on to say&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;It is only reasonable and logical to assume that the universe – just like everything else – had to have a cause. Judging by the staggering vastness, complexity and beauty of the universe, the cause that brought it forth must have been immensely powerful, superbly wise and exquisitely imaginative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such characteristics are normally associated with an entity we term God.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This reeks of stupid: "It's SO PRETTY! ...therefore, goddidit!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;To believe in God – the transcendent cause of the universe – is thus neither illogical nor absurd. Not to believe in him is both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unbelief will remain to be logically and scientifically untenable until it can be demonstrated that it is possible for an uncaused event to occur.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the contrary, unbelief is the ONLY scientifically tenable position until evidence demonstrates the existence of a deity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To believe that the existence of a god is justified by science is both illogical and absurd.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8301433674832413256?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8301433674832413256/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8301433674832413256&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8301433674832413256'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8301433674832413256'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/atheism-versus-god-how-did-universe.html' title='Atheism versus God: How did the universe begin?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-888016709003687238</id><published>2011-10-22T11:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-22T11:06:12.710+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><title type='text'>Tree of Wonder</title><content type='html'>I never quite understood the notion that beauty of nature is diminished when science explains the mechanisms of nature. I understand how people find the scientific method itself boring because they're not inclined to enjoy performing experiments and making observations. But that is a very different thing from saying science makes nature less beautiful by explaining it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't get that. At all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just look at a tree. A tall, large tree with a crown of forest green leaves -- a majesty sight especially if contrasted by a lack of trees in the surrounding or smaller trees in the vicinity. The branching patterns in the crown and of the veins in leaves is itself beautiful sometimes very intricate looking. The powerful roots, a part of which spreads visibly above ground -- in urban areas, demonstrate its strength by breaking concrete as its grows larger and thicker. Depending on the time of the year, there may be flowers or fruits -- each adding colour to the crown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is beautiful. Visually. A majestic natural object to behold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Science makes it even more beautiful -- not in your eyes but in your head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I look at a tree and contemplate its beauty, its beauty is not skin deep. Visuals is only part of the story. In the back of my head, the science of biology is summoned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This large majestic tree is a multicellular organism -- a successful coalition of cells. Millions, billions of cells. Each cell as intricate and complex as the other. Each one following instructions laid out in its DNA -- having switched on or off different genes to perform its task in the coalition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the leaves, the chloroplasts are photosynthesizing -- the process that gave Earth its oxygenated atmosphere. And these chloroplast, like mitochondria, has its own genome, separate from the plant's own nuclear DNA, having descended from free-living ancestors of cyanobacteria.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This tree is one of the descendants of the primeval cell that started it all. A chain of unbroken parent-child kinship marching back more than 3 billion years. It stands tall on one of the tips of the tree of life where you stand on another. Yes, you're a cousin, a distant cousin of the tree you're looking at. Every single living thing is a cousin of differing degrees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much more to think of but I hope this little description gives those people an inkling of how science beautifies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much beauty, awe and wonder with science than without.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-888016709003687238?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/888016709003687238/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=888016709003687238&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/888016709003687238'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/888016709003687238'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/tree-of-wonder.html' title='Tree of Wonder'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-9068275959095928891</id><published>2011-10-20T14:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-21T14:40:41.416+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>Mr. Deity and the Naughty Bits</title><content type='html'>Another hilarious episode of Mr Deity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G5wYT_IdYac" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More videos on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity"&gt;their channel&lt;/a&gt; if you're interested.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-9068275959095928891?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/9068275959095928891/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=9068275959095928891&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9068275959095928891'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9068275959095928891'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/mr-deity-and-naughty-bits.html' title='Mr. Deity and the Naughty Bits'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/G5wYT_IdYac/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5523443454599620990</id><published>2011-10-19T09:30:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-19T09:52:57.693+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>Catholic Church trafficking babies in Spain</title><content type='html'>The headline says it all and it reads: &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html"&gt;300,000 babies stolen from their parents - and sold for adoption: Haunting BBC documentary exposes 50-year scandal of baby trafficking by the Catholic church in Spain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't have a lot to comment on this. On some level, it's almost expected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spreading AIDS in Africa. Child rape and cover-up. And now, there's baby trafficking on the list of shit that the Catholic Church peddle. Granted it's just the Catholic Church in Spain and not the Pope's Vatican, the atrocity is still substantially religiously motivated and facilitated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is yet another example of how organized religion can conduct immoral actions with efficiency through its organized structure and be cloaked by inculcating a false veil of moral superiority.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5523443454599620990?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5523443454599620990/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5523443454599620990&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5523443454599620990'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5523443454599620990'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-church-trafficking-babies-in.html' title='Catholic Church trafficking babies in Spain'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5523511495423054232</id><published>2011-10-18T09:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-18T09:00:02.067+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheist Experience'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>Tracie Harris awesomeness</title><content type='html'>One of those informative episodes of the Atheist Experience with co-host Tracie Harris.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="301" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wy0vxUpP9iE" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5523511495423054232?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5523511495423054232/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5523511495423054232&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5523511495423054232'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5523511495423054232'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/tracie-harris-awesomeness.html' title='Tracie Harris awesomeness'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/wy0vxUpP9iE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4183292507924560544</id><published>2011-10-17T08:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-17T10:38:49.175+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>"Well, it's not all bad!"</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Why do you atheists always talk about bad things that come from religion? Why don't you ever talk about the good works like feeding the poor and building hospitals, etc?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Well, religion is not all bad! Look at all the good things that come from religion like charity and love and etc..."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This one type of defense of religion that I find not only weak but, frankly misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, it is basically arguing for the usefulness of religion not for its truth which seems odd when we're arguing about whether a god really exist. But we'll leave that aside since this post is coming from another angle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Religion does good too!" sounds &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; reasonable, ie not reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You mean aside from stifling science and education, obstructing justice, denying LGBT rights and perpetuating a general contempt of humanity among other historical atrocities, religions also does charity and some good works? Wow, who knew? /sarcasm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put it this way: Say there's a rich guy who love his wife and kids. He is rich and successful businessman who provides welfare for his workers and donates to large sums of money to charity monthly. Every fortnight, he kills a family and rape the kids. But look at all the good things he does!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No. He's a psychopath and needs to be locked up. Same with religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What makes the defense even more worthless is the fact that ALL the good works religion does can be and (hopefully) will be done, if not superseded, by secular means. That means we can have all the good without the bad -- religion can and should go.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4183292507924560544?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4183292507924560544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4183292507924560544&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4183292507924560544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4183292507924560544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/well-its-not-all-bad.html' title='&quot;Well, it&apos;s not all bad!&quot;'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1123334184729471303</id><published>2011-10-16T00:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-17T10:38:03.683+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Atheism is not the system</title><content type='html'>Atheism is frequently thought to be a belief system or a religion by religious people. Sometimes, atheists ourselves use the word in such a way that it would be misunderstood as such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a thought process, but it's not atheism, it's skepticism coupled with the scientific method. Atheism, a singular position on a single claim, cannot be a system -- it is a conclusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is &lt;i&gt;no doctrine of Atheism&lt;/i&gt; that call upon all atheists to reject/deny god(s). There is a preponderance of the evidence of available that led to the conclusion that is atheism. There is &lt;i&gt;no pope of Atheism&lt;/i&gt; who dictates that science is the truth. There is a recognition that the Scientific Method is the single most reliable method to get humanity as close to the truth as possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So perhaps, skepticism might be a more accurate label for the "belief system" than atheism?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1123334184729471303?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1123334184729471303/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1123334184729471303&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1123334184729471303'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1123334184729471303'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/atheism-is-not-system.html' title='Atheism is not the system'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8841432589967042863</id><published>2011-10-15T12:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-15T18:31:44.936+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Absurdities'/><title type='text'>Discarding theology</title><content type='html'>Why do atheists typically ignore "sophisticated" modern theology? Simple. The answer is embodied by the Courtier's Reply made by PZ Myers in response to critics of Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I have considered the impudent accusations of Mr Dawkins with exasperation at his lack of serious scholarship. He has apparently not read the detailed discourses of Count Roderigo of Seville on the exquisite and exotic leathers of the Emperor's boots, nor does he give a moment's consideration to Bellini's masterwork, &lt;i&gt;On the Luminescence of the Emperor's Feathered Hat.&lt;/i&gt; We have entire schools dedicated to writing learned treatises on the beauty of the Emperor's raiment, and every major newspaper runs a section dedicated to imperial fashion; Dawkins cavalierly dismisses them all. He even &lt;i&gt;laughs&lt;/i&gt; at the highly popular and most persuasive arguments of his fellow countryman, Lord D. T. Mawkscribbler, who famously pointed out that the Emperor would not wear common cotton, nor uncomfortable polyester, but must, I say &lt;i&gt;must,&lt;/i&gt; wear undergarments of the finest silk. Dawkins arrogantly ignores all these deep philosophical ponderings to crudely accuse the Emperor of nudity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simply put, theology is not based on reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Scientific Method is applicable to ANY area of knowledge of reality. What we typically call Science is the different branches of physics, chemistry and biology. But the method is also applied to other areas of knowledge including history and linguistics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, you use a less rigorous form of the method in your life. When your computer power off suddenly, you hypothesize that there is a blackout or that some hardware in the computer fried. You notice that other electrical appliances in your home is still powered thus ruling out the hypothesis of a blackout and you go on checking other things, so on and so forth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Theology is basically the study of god. But the thing is, theology does not provide evidence of god's existence. It sometimes tries to prove god through pure logic (ie, armchair philosophy) if not ignoring the issue completely and jumps straight into sophistry about god presuming its existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm sorry. How is that not nonsense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Theology is like Germ theory where viruses and bacteria don't exist. Theology is like Paleontology where bones never fossilize. Theology is like Chemistry in a universe where only hydrogen exist forever unchanged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dismissing claims for which there is no evidence for is not a "science". It's basic skepticism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same point is previously discussed in: &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/06/justification-and-beliefs.html"&gt;Justifications and Beliefs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do realize that atheists (at least those who have been called "New Atheists") are skeptics first, atheist in conclusion. We are not hostile to religion because of some Atheist doctrine. We are atheists because we were first skeptical of religious claims.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8841432589967042863?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8841432589967042863/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8841432589967042863&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8841432589967042863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8841432589967042863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/discarding-theology.html' title='Discarding theology'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4656180648787536956</id><published>2011-10-14T20:50:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-14T21:01:18.857+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>The Non-Explanation</title><content type='html'>Here's a new video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525"&gt;DarkMatter2525&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/A0EEKfTnfvA" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conditioned to believe that basically everything is in accordance to God's plans, religious people rationalize any and every outcome in a strange twisted way. Since God is defined to be always right, no matter the situation, God is "good" irrespective of the situation, be it an accident or a natural disaster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's fucking nuts.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4656180648787536956?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4656180648787536956/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4656180648787536956&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4656180648787536956'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4656180648787536956'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/non-explanation.html' title='The Non-Explanation'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/A0EEKfTnfvA/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5205751372150229913</id><published>2011-10-09T19:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-09T19:05:00.498+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>Jesus Camp, Singapore</title><content type='html'>By the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HOLY FUCK! The conservative Christian pastor, Becky Fischer, well-known for running Jesus Camp, was in Singapore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/J0ZxynnckZE" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CmsLGXPf35w" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who haven't heard of Jesus Camp, you can see it on Youtube.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gHa1D4ioMBM" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 1: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" data-redirect-href-updated="true" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgHa1D4ioMBM&amp;amp;session_token=MubCenO_usL97w6Avv-WPpT67sF8MTMxODI0NDQ3NkAxMzE4MTU4MDc2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHa1D4ioMBM"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHa1D4ioMBM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 2: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKCeWbmEjw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKCeWbmEjw"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKCeWbmEjw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 3: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpmVtqtw90" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpmVtqtw90"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpmVtqtw90&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 4: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssdo_L56pI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssdo_L56pI"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssdo_L56pI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 5: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JXoQOX8VE0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JXoQOX8VE0"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JXoQOX8VE0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part 6: &lt;a class="yt-uix-redirect-link" dir="ltr" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFw14ATOgew" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFw14ATOgew"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFw14ATOgew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The crazies are coming!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5205751372150229913?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5205751372150229913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5205751372150229913&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5205751372150229913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5205751372150229913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/jesus-camp-singapore.html' title='Jesus Camp, Singapore'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/J0ZxynnckZE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-203125219884811114</id><published>2011-10-07T19:30:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-07T19:34:59.815+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Skepticism'/><title type='text'>Steve Jobs needn't have died young</title><content type='html'>It has come to my attention that the recent death of Steve Jobs was very probably premature and I'm not speaking from an emotional point of view. He may have survived his cancer had he gotten treatment right away but... he did not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a link to an article written on the subject by the Daily Beast: &lt;a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/05/steve-jobs-dies-his-unorthodox-treatment-for-neuroendocrine-cancer.html"&gt;Job's Unorthodox Treatment&lt;/a&gt;. And here is a ScienceBlogs entry about the same topic: &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/10/steve_jobs_neuroendocrine_tumors_and_alt.php"&gt;Steve Jobs, neuroendocrine tumors and alternative treatment&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, we cannot be absolutely sure that he would have survived had he undertook immediate medical treatment but 9 months is very significant if his cancer was indeed aggressive. Aggressive or not, it seems clear that he would probably live much longer if those 9 months haven't been wasted on "alternative medicine".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel dirty for using the word "medicine" in the phrase "alternative medicine". "Alternative medicine" is not medicine -- if it worked, it wouldn't be an "alternative" at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn't write this entry to dump on Steve Jobs for making that bad decision but to bring to light what an unnecessary tragedy this is. It's a pretty good bet that he could have stuck around longer if he had known better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The blame is on society and educators. We failed. We failed to equip laypeople with the knowledge and skills to fend off unevidenced beliefs. And in this case, unevidenced beliefs has cut a brilliant man's life short. There are many more people out there who are now on the same path because they too have succumbed to pseudoscience and magical thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you can help. Educating yourself on such areas of knowledge would be most helpful -- admittedly however, most people either do not have the time or is not bothered by such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, it's time to be bothered. The next time someone talks about astrology as if it was true, give it to them, wake them up. Someone wants to waste money on homeopathy? Give him some education. Whatever the pseudoscience or superstition, be bothered, be very bothered and let them know that it is wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some tragedies need not happen. Don't let it slide.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-203125219884811114?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/203125219884811114/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=203125219884811114&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/203125219884811114'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/203125219884811114'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-neednt-have-died-young.html' title='Steve Jobs needn&apos;t have died young'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-113714453753188268</id><published>2011-09-29T15:20:00.004+08:00</published><updated>2011-10-27T07:16:33.057+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secular Humanism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><title type='text'>Good is Secular Humanist</title><content type='html'>This is about a particular type of claim made against Secular Humanism (hereafter referred to as Humanism) and it takes on several forms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One common claim launched against Secular Humanism (usually as a defense of religion) is that Humanism "is Christianity without God" or "adopted Christian values". This claim accuses Humanism of having values and morals  only because it adopted them from Christianity and that it has no grounds for its moral framework.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another claim attacks Humanism on similar grounds, asking rhetorically, in effect: "Why Humanists say that their way is the rational/moral/correct way?" to accuse Humanists of acting just like dogmatic/fundamentalist religious people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Going along similar lines, if Humanism is another religion, it extends to the idea that Humanists are breaching the wall between church and state when the government acts in agreement with Humanist values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Religion or not?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's deal with the latter two claims first. Is Humanism a religion?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes and No. It depends what you are talking about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Legally, Humanism should recognized as a religion as a practical category that it fits into. Humanism is a philosophy that are not a religion but play a similar role in a person's life. With regards to the law and rights, there isn't much of a difference between a life philosophy that includes a god (a religion) and one that doesn't have gods. Non-believers should not be denied the same rights religious people have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Generally speaking however, there's a huge difference between a philosophy, like Humanism, and a religion. Religions have a supernatural or dogmatic aspect -- this makes it fundamentally different from Humanism. In religions, god(s) are supernatural entities and in each religion there are certain beliefs that must be held (dogmatism). Humanism have neither -- in fact, Humanism rejects both on the grounds of skepticism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, legally, yes, Humanism is a religion. But aside from that, no, Humanism is not a religion unless you wish to destroy the distinction between philosophies and religion by rendering the word "religion" meaningless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Getting it backwards&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humanism is not a religion without morals (and thus having to import "Christian values") -- it has morals without religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humanism is a philosophy that stems from rational thought, empirical understanding and driven by human empathy. It values skepticism and the scientific method as tools for improving our understanding of the world. Morals is born of the marriage of reason and empathy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For some religious people, it may be difficult to understand how morals can be of reason and empathy. Especially those who, unfortunately, believes that morals must be handed down by their god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But think about it a little more deeply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you do charity,&lt;br /&gt;-- because your contributions can help alleviate another person's suffering,&lt;br /&gt;-- because it feels good to help people,&lt;br /&gt;-- because you need the extra cash/time less than less fortunate people, or&lt;br /&gt;-- because god instructed/liked it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you not commit murder,&lt;br /&gt;-- because you are robbing someone of their right to life&lt;br /&gt;-- because you simply do not have such a desire&lt;br /&gt;-- because you are potentially harming the people who love that person&lt;br /&gt;-- because god said so?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In both cases, only the last option is the truly religious -- the only one that can be regarded as having "Christian" (or whatever religion) value. The first 3 can easily be reached via reason and empathy. They are of &lt;i&gt;human&lt;/i&gt; value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;No god required&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People operate using reason and evidence to deal with everyday issues. When you get the change from the cashier, you count if you want to know if you were given the right change, you don't pray to find out whether it's really 35 cents. When your television is not working right, you check the manual or the internet to see what could be wrong, you don't go to your holy book for advice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But somehow, some religious people think that: when they want to know how the world came to be, they read their creation myth instead of gathering evidence from the world to ascertain what they can know about the subject. When they want to know what are morals, they adhere to "wisdom" from an old book written by ignorant men who thought they knew god instead of evaluating the moral issue rationally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humanism did not adopt any religious value. On the contrary, religions co-opt human values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that I said human values as opposed to humanist values. Because it is simply an unfortunate situation that we have to identify ourselves as humanists. Humanists are what humans should be unless they are corrupted by religious dogma and fantastical thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some religious people like to characterize Humanism as their religion without their god like a beautiful flowering plant without its flower. But the truth is their religion is humanism corrupted by god(s) and other magical thinking -- akin to a beautiful garden which became overrun by the supernatural, dogmatic weeds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put another way: "Good religion" is "bad religion" stripped of obvious immoral nonsense. Secular Humanism is just "good religion" stripped of ALL nonsense.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-113714453753188268?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/113714453753188268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=113714453753188268&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/113714453753188268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/113714453753188268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/09/good-is-secular-humanist.html' title='Good is Secular Humanist'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5331646790236600980</id><published>2011-09-17T18:51:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-09-17T18:52:36.888+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>There is no gods</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheraminTrees"&gt;TheraminTrees&lt;/a&gt; has uploaded the third and final video of his video response titled "there is no gods". The series is a brilliant piece of work, explaining many reasons why an atheist would reject theistic claims.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the third video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jwjAX_r2kIU" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first and second videos are here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YkExxkrMyU4" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="233" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Pt9x3CnxApo" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5331646790236600980?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5331646790236600980/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5331646790236600980&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5331646790236600980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5331646790236600980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/09/theramintrees-has-uploaded-third-and.html' title='There is no gods'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/jwjAX_r2kIU/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-603268485086702149</id><published>2011-09-11T14:10:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-09-11T14:33:54.061+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><title type='text'>Slavery in the Bible</title><content type='html'>For ease of referencing, here are the Bible verses relevant to its support of slavery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Old Testament &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Old Testament explicitly condones slavery -- providing instructions for acquisition, treatment and punishment of Hebrew and non-Hebrew slaves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exodus has Yahweh speaking to Moses directly, stating "Now these are the ordinances which you are to set before them" in Exodus 21:1 before a string of instructions including those pertaining to slavery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Exodus 21:2-11&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment. If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,’ then his master shall bring him to God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights. If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's a divine legal loophole for permanent slavery of your fellow Hebrew -- Marry your slave to another slave, blackmail him into permanent slavery if he wishes to stay with his spouse and children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Exodus 21:20-21&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Causing your slave to die after 1-2 days is criminal. But after 2-3 days is just dandy because he's just property anways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Exodus 21:26-27&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a man strikes the eye of his male or female slave, and destroys it, he shall let him go free on account of his eye. And if he knocks out a tooth of his male or female slave, he shall let him go free on account of his tooth. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beat your slave but don't cause permanent harm or you lose him/her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leviticus 19:20-22&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now if a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave acquired for another man, but who has in no way been redeemed nor given her freedom, there shall be punishment; they shall not, however, be put to death, because she was not free. He shall bring his guilt offering to the LORD to the doorway of the tent of meeting, a ram for a guilt offering. The priest shall also make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering before the LORD for his sin which he has committed, and the sin which he has committed will be forgiven him. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you fuck your slave, she has to be punished if she is betrothed to another man. You? Just go sacrifice a ram and you're scot-free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leviticus 25:44-46&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hebrews for permanent slavery? No. Everyone else is game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The New Testament &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The New Testament is less explicit about slavery laws than the Old Testament. It recognizes that slavery exists but does not criticize it. Instead, it frequently compares slaves and masters to the relationship between believers and God, implying that it was acceptable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ephesians 6:5-9&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-603268485086702149?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/603268485086702149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=603268485086702149&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/603268485086702149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/603268485086702149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/09/slavery-in-bible.html' title='Slavery in the Bible'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4721252738240950928</id><published>2011-09-04T03:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-09-04T21:41:16.931+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>Open, tolerant and respectful</title><content type='html'>I am guessing that most Singaporeans should have noticed that when it comes to racial or religious harmony, our government always&lt;a href="http://www.news.gov.sg/public/sgpc/en/media_releases/agencies/mcys/speech/S-20110903-1.html?AuthKey=22620129-1289-084f-8fe3-543643c6568b"&gt; reiterates the same points with the same rhetoric&lt;/a&gt; all the time. Don't get me wrong; I do agree that we should maintain racial/religious harmony -- that's not the issue here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What gets on my nerves is how vague they are every single time that I've seen it. It's always the same vague language, imploring that we should be open, tolerant and respectful of other beliefs. Okay, good. What does &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; mean?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is being open?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be open is to be ready to entertain new ideas. And here in Singapore, I never really thought that this was an issue at all (so far).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about being tolerant?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be tolerant something is to permit and endure its existence. Again, I, for one, have no issue with this. I am not, and I hope nobody else is, going to prohibit religion or irreligion in general.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then what about being respectful?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To show deference to a right. Sure, people have the right to have or not have religious beliefs -- that's fine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What then is the issue here?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wait, there's another commonly used meaning for respect I'm forgetting -- to hold in esteem or honor. That? HELL, NO.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, think of the common thread that holds this 3 terms together. For non-believers on the internet, I'm pretty sure you might have guessed it -- Criticism of religious doctrines and practices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the eyes of (some of) the religious and squishy liberals, simply criticizing religious doctrines and practices is equated to being close-minded, intolerant and disrespectful. Guess what? They're wrong. One can be open, tolerant and respectful of religious beliefs without silencing all opposing ideas (ie, criticism).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will entertain your beliefs, respect your right to hold them, tolerate your practices AND tell you what I find disagreeable. But the last part is what seems to get their goat. And that appears to me, what they wish to achieve with the usual rhetoric.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When tensions between religions (and the irreligious) mount around the globe, the rhetoric is used to quell any tension that might be building here in Singapore. In this case, it might have been the tension between the freethought community and the religious in the USA and Europe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It becomes ironic when you consider what happens when religious conflicts do escalate. It ends with one religious faction making a hell of a fuss by rioting. So essentially, I cannot criticize you because you might lose your sanity and kill people -- and this is supposed to be acceptable?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, if a riot broke out because a group of people were unhappy with the government's decision, those people are insurgents. But if a riot broke up because a group of people were unhappy because they were presented facts about their religion, those people are good citizens who should be protected from information? Bite me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I genuinely hope the that is not the position the government is holding and is possibly using that same old rhetoric about religious harmony for more benign reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To summarize, my position is that, I will defend your right to believe in nonsense so long as you do not deny my right to call it nonsense.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4721252738240950928?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4721252738240950928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4721252738240950928&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4721252738240950928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4721252738240950928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/09/open-tolerant-and-respectful.html' title='Open, tolerant and respectful'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1393571808551044692</id><published>2011-09-01T22:00:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-09-01T22:01:02.489+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><title type='text'>Adaptive Immune System</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I haven't posted anything for quite awhile so I thought I'd recommend a video.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's a video from the FreeOK Convention - there are 5 segments on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt; channel if you're interested. This one is a presentation on vaccination and your adaptive immune system by Abbie Smith.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/afm3vjn0PuQ" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1393571808551044692?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1393571808551044692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1393571808551044692&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1393571808551044692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1393571808551044692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/09/adaptive-immune-system.html' title='Adaptive Immune System'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/afm3vjn0PuQ/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4742214448695961766</id><published>2011-08-09T20:11:00.005+08:00</published><updated>2011-08-10T10:14:39.164+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>Happy Birthday Singapore!</title><content type='html'>Today marks the 46th year of our island nation's independence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In keeping with tradition, this year we have "In a Heartbeat" for our National Day Parade theme song.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VIgoiKKa9_E" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I realized I did not have a post up for last year's National Day (probably because I'm busy being involved). So here's last year's song as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IlTYFXGm-eo" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I ask myself, why do I like NDP songs (here's an &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2F268D91F053889E"&gt;almost complete playlist&lt;/a&gt; of them, excluding 2010 and 2011) so much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think I know why now: I always picture the whole world singing the song, not for just Singapore, but for the whole world -- a world united...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4742214448695961766?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4742214448695961766/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4742214448695961766&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4742214448695961766'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4742214448695961766'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/08/happy-birthday-singapore.html' title='Happy Birthday Singapore!'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/VIgoiKKa9_E/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5794972332085365017</id><published>2011-07-29T23:41:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-29T23:41:17.692+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Not-so-good books</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup"&gt;QualiaSoup&lt;/a&gt; has made another beautiful video on the subject of morality. This time addressing the claim of morality from scripture (and in this video, specifically the Bible).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hSS-88ShJfo" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5794972332085365017?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5794972332085365017/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5794972332085365017&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5794972332085365017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5794972332085365017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/not-so-good-books.html' title='Not-so-good books'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/hSS-88ShJfo/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8392847921636884123</id><published>2011-07-27T09:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-27T17:48:28.874+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secular Humanism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singaporean'/><title type='text'>Answers to three questions for humanists</title><content type='html'>On the online Straits Times Forum, two letters were posted in response to the news article on (Secular) Humanist Society. The following is a response to one of them, titled: "Three questions for humanists" The online story can be found &lt;a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_694596.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Three questions for humanists&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MR PAUL Tobin rightly observes that one does not need to believe in God in order to be good ("'I've no God - and am proud of it'"; last Saturday).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know this from our interactions with friends and relatives, and from news of prominent people in public life. And we need only look at history, past and contemporary, to observe how much harm religion can do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nevertheless, I do have a few issues with humanists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I'll try to address them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;First, Ms Catherine Lim says she prefers to have faith rather than a faith. But the two are not mutually exclusive. "A faith" refers to an organised religion. One can believe in God (or gods) without belonging to an organised religion. Until not so long ago, the secretary of the British Humanist Association was an Anglican priest....... &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, it is correct to point out that (blind) faith is not exclusively in the domain of organized religion. One can have faith in the existence of god(s) without subscribing to any particular religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I believe that wasn't her point -- she was merely stating she has a preference for having trust in the potential of humanity to guide the world than any particular religion which would claim to be able to do so. She was probably being inaccurate with her language when making that point -- I will concede that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;......In the West, Christian humanism has been around for many years. So, more precisely, humanism as described in the article refers to secular humanism. Even so, it is difficult not to ascribe the values of humanism to its religious roots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of the values of Western humanism can trace their roots to Christianity....... &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Honestly, I don't care if humanism's roots can be traced back to Christianity. I am not clear what relevance that would have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I doubt that the proposition is meaningful. The most important aspect of Secular Humanism is its rejection of dogmas and propositions without evidence. In this respect, it stands completely at odds with organized religion where the very existence of a god is asserted without evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In view of this, the values that Secular Humanists stand for are not grounded in the existence of any god but in human empathy, reason and evidence. So, in a sense, to say that Humanism has its roots in Christianity is to have it ass-backwards. Christianity has values which roots are in humanity -- Humanism merely holds onto those values and hack away the supernatural weeds that have grown around them (strangling them).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;......Secular humanists may say these values would have been dominant anyway, since they have proven to be the most adaptive for human survival and religion has only been the vehicle through which such values have been transmitted. This may be true, but in itself is not an argument against the existence of God.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one is arguing that Secular humanism itself constitutes evidence against god. That would be ludicrous. Strawman?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Another member says he will let science rather than religion lead his thinking. This is fine so long as we do not go into the science versus religion debate. This is a false dichotomy. As astrophysicist Paul Davies reminds us, science describes the "how" while religion answers the "why".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, Paul Davies is wrong . Well, on the face of it, he may appear to be correct.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religious people have no problem rationalizing scientific data and theories into their respective belief systems. Religious doctrines and scriptures have been interpreted to death by their adherents to conform (or at least, not contradict) other beliefs (scientific or otherwise) that they have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, that is also where science definitely clashes with faith and religion. Science requires that conclusions be drawn from observations and biases should be eradicated to avoid distorting data. Faith contravenes that important principle by requiring that a priori religious beliefs be brought to bear on the evidence and, in some cases, reject the evidence if it contradicts those religious beliefs. In this sense, science and faith are fundamentally at odds -- the same reason why fundamentalists versions of religions go after science with such fervor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The history of science is peopled by God-believing scientists. Indeed, the first person to postulate the Big Bang was a Catholic priest, Georges Lemaitre. Another Catholic priest, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, took the evolutionary theory on a radical path. Not so many years ago, Pope John Paul II pronounced the theory of evolution to be more than a theory. And we know that the person who headed the genome project, Dr Francis Collins, is a staunch Christian.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These people also did not believe that science contradicted their religion and that their religion offers an interpretation of scientific data that they are comfortable with. The "false dichotomy" still stands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;How do secular humanists respond to the following questions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Why is there something rather than nothing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't know. (More honest than religions, eh?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I actually think it's a trivial question&amp;nbsp; even though it sounds like a deep philosophical question at face value. If there must be something to cause anything to happen, then the very existence of anything indicates that there was never nothing to begin with. That is, the question makes no sense. This is not a formal philosophical argument, just my opinion if you want it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the people who ask that question thinking that it somehow justifies belief in god, you're arguing for the god of the gaps. The honest answer is still "I don't know" not "therefore, god must exist!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;- If matter is all there is, how can specks of dust (matter) combine to produce a human being with consciousness (non-matter)? Astronomer Carl Sagan's standard response ("billions of years") is unhelpful.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Carl Sagan's response is probably accurate. Nature is not required to provide feel-good answers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, the mind is an emergent phenomenon. It IS matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, wetness is an emergent property when water molecules get together in a sufficient quantity. Water molecules themselves are not wet. So, is wetness non-matter?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;- If matter is all there is and thoughts are a product of a chemical reaction in the brain in response to stimuli, then there is no free will, including the freedom of thought. Every thought we have is an inevitable response in accordance with set natural laws. In other words, we cannot help thinking what we think. In that case, how can we believe anything, since the thinking is "done" for us? How then can we trust what we believe, including the belief in no God?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll just point out that you are assuming we hold to the determinist position on free will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We believe propositions on the basis of reason and evidence. Are you proposing that reason and evidence is somehow not real if we are following natural laws?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a thought. What are "You" if not your thoughts, feelings and experience?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8392847921636884123?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8392847921636884123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8392847921636884123&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8392847921636884123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8392847921636884123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/answers-to-three-questions-for.html' title='Answers to three questions for humanists'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2277292192904568459</id><published>2011-07-24T23:50:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-24T23:51:16.642+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Noah's Ark: Reality Check</title><content type='html'>The following video, by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector"&gt;NonStampCollector&lt;/a&gt;, is a response to people who believe that the Noah's Ark story actually happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe width="400" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/j_BzWUuZN5w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XLr5vl-n0Bo" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2277292192904568459?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2277292192904568459/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2277292192904568459&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2277292192904568459'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2277292192904568459'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/noahs-ark-reality-check.html' title='Noah&apos;s Ark: Reality Check'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/j_BzWUuZN5w/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8539739755276687645</id><published>2011-07-23T13:49:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T13:49:59.140+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secular Humanism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>I've no god - and am proud of it</title><content type='html'>&amp;nbsp;The following is an article by the Straits Times via &lt;a href="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/ive-no-god---and-am-proud-of-it/454750"&gt;Jakarta Globe&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Singapore.&lt;/b&gt; A growing number of people in Singapore who do not believe in a God have banded together, determined to be unapologetic about being non-religious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Registered as the Humanist Society (Singapore) last October, their ranks have since expanded from 10 to 100 registered, fee-paying members.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their backgrounds are as diverse as their reasons for not professing a faith, but they are united by their belief that morality comes from humanity itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Calling themselves 'secular humanists', they are also united in their rejection of a theistic or supernatural explanation of reality, and their embracing of scientific inquiry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today is a red-letter day: The society presents its inaugural Humanist of the Year award to author Catherine Lim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another recent milestone was the society's application to join the International Humanist and Ethical Union, a European body of humanist societies around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The humanists here include artists, government officials, students and entrepreneurs. The youngest member is 19 and the oldest, 65.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most describe themselves as atheists or agnostics, though some eschew labels. Others are adamantly definitive. Take Nanyang Technological University student Eugene Tay, 24, who declares: 'I'm an atheist-agnostic secular humanist.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Statistically, the proportion of people here with no religion has climbed steadily in the last 30 years - from 13 per cent in 1980 to 17 per cent last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since non-believers have no church, temple or mosque to go to, they have carved out their space online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The founding members of the Humanist Society came together in 2008, through www.meetup.com, a social networking website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The online group they formed has more than 500 members.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since it was set up, the society has cast itself as the voice for the non-religious here. Its president Paul Tobin, 46, wrote to The Straits Times' Forum page last December, in response to a report that suggested that non-religious young people were prone to violence and cynicism. In his letter, he rejected the claim and concluded: 'One does not need to have a religion to lead a good, happy and meaningful life.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He told The Straits Times: 'That was a watershed moment. After that letter, our numbers shot up. I feel now that we have a say in what goes on in Singapore.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Land surveyor Loh Kwek Leong, 58, who learnt of the society through this newspaper last year, said he grew up in a typical Chinese household - one that was 'a bit Taoist, a bit Buddhist, a lot superstitious'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As an adult, he found putting his faith in science better. He said: 'The questions I had about the world, about life and death - I found my answers in science, not religion.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The group pulls together because of a shared sense of being alone in a society where four in five people profess to believe in a Supreme Being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Communications manager Winston Chong, 36, who said he has philosophical debates with his parents, who are religious, said: 'It's about time we had a group for ourselves. I've been waiting for this, to find like-minded people.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a recipient of the society's award, Dr Lim joins a list of internationally honoured humanists, including astronomer Carl Sagan and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asked for her take on religion, she replied via e-mail: 'I suppose if I had a religion, it would be the 'religion of humanity', based on confidence in the indomitability of the human spirit. I would rather have faith, than a faith.'&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I want to be pedantic, I'll take issue with capitalizing the word "god". Excuse me, are you trying to be a bigoted monotheist, dismissing all the other gods other people believe in -- hmmm?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also take issue with the phrase "putting his faith in science" because it reeks of religious language that confuse the issue of faith, trust and confidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But all in all, nice -- a positive article about secular humanism and non-belief is always good to have.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8539739755276687645?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8539739755276687645/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8539739755276687645&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8539739755276687645'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8539739755276687645'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/ive-no-god-and-am-proud-of-it.html' title='I&apos;ve no god - and am proud of it'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5761879532382962858</id><published>2011-07-07T12:56:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-07T12:56:05.939+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><title type='text'>Question Evolution: Answers</title><content type='html'>Via &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLivingDinosaur"&gt;TheLivingDinosaur&lt;/a&gt;, it came to my attention of Creation Ministries International's campaign, Question Evolution. As a response, 15+1 Youtubers came together to produce videos to answer the ludicrous questions in the campaign's pamphlet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are the 4 videos collated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6ModNCJLZ3E" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-YEthIfeqQ4" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/eGRmm3KQg18" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zqh1-Hw8gMk" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Links to the creationist's site and pamphlet can be found on the Youtube page of the first part of the video. Links to the individual contributors can be found on the Youtube page of the video part they appear in.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5761879532382962858?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5761879532382962858/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5761879532382962858&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5761879532382962858'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5761879532382962858'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/question-evolution-answers.html' title='Question Evolution: Answers'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/6ModNCJLZ3E/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5673907590608606336</id><published>2011-07-06T11:27:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-06T11:28:33.627+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>Treatise on Morality</title><content type='html'>Here's video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheoreticalBullshit"&gt;TheoreticalBullshit&lt;/a&gt; on the subject of morality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dWNW-NXEudk" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It addresses why I say, Christianity has obedience not morality -- This applies to any denomination or religion where morality is defined by their deity.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5673907590608606336?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5673907590608606336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5673907590608606336&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5673907590608606336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5673907590608606336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/treatise-on-morality.html' title='Treatise on Morality'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/dWNW-NXEudk/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4529318016869812620</id><published>2011-07-04T17:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-04T21:56:43.503+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>Morality: Subjective, Objective</title><content type='html'>Very often, the debate over morality is bogged down by the issue over the subjectivity or objectivity of morality. Usually, the theists are the ones advocating that morality is objective (and has been made known to them by their gods) while some atheists would deny that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Definitions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, note the (relevant) definitions for objective and subjective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;objective — adj&lt;br /&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; existing independently of perception or an individual's&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; conceptions: are there objective moral values?&lt;br /&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; undistorted by emotion or personal bias&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; of or relating to actual and external phenomena as &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; opposed to thoughts, feelings, etc&lt;br /&gt;4. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; of, or relating to a goal or aim &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;subjective — adj&lt;br /&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; belonging to, proceeding from, or relating to the mind of &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the thinking subject and not the nature of the object being &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; considered&lt;br /&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; of, relating to, or emanating from a person's emotions, &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; prejudices, etc: subjective views&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; relating to the inherent nature of a person or thing&lt;br /&gt;4. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; existing only as perceived and not as a thing in itself&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note the different ways the words subjective and objective can be used. The two different ways is with respect to in/dependence of mind(s) and distortion or lack of it by prejudices/biases/emotions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this means that referring to morality with those terms, objective and subjective, without adequate clarity will indicate 4 different positions. If you said morality is objective, you might mean that morality exist independent of minds or that morality is not biased by subjects. If you said morality is subjective, you might mean that morality is dependent on minds or that morality is based on subjective biases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Usual Confusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As such, without providing proper context, telling me that you believe morality to be objective or subjective is potentially misleading. You MUST indicate what definition of objective and subjective you are using.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Objective (1) --  independent of minds&lt;br /&gt;Objective (2) -- unbiased by subjects &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subjective (1) -- dependent  on minds&lt;br /&gt;Subjective (2) -- based on subjective biases&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that clarified, I want to state that atheists (not all, but there is a significant proportion at least) are proposing that morality is subjective (1) but its morals can be derived objectively (2). This would be what Sam Harris is proposing that science can study morality, concerning the well-being of conscious beings which is subjective (1), objectively (2).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Morality and Morals&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The purpose of morality, simply put, is to guide human behavior and (social) interactions. I will state that I reject ALL claims of objective (1) morality. Any moral system that ignores the state of the conscious beings involved -- which is what it must entail in order to be objective (1) -- is not a moral system at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The purpose of morality is subjective (1) in the sense that morality only matters if there are subjects. It is not subjective (2) as long as we properly define what morality is and thus be able to objectively (2) investigate what is moral and immoral. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with Sam Harris' view of morality where the purpose of morality is to guide human behavior and social interactions &lt;i&gt;in the direction of well-being&lt;/i&gt;. Note the well-being is somewhat vague, like the concept of health, which I think is actually a strong point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take a look at the branches of normative ethics, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative_ethics"&gt;at this Wikipedia page&lt;/a&gt;, particularly Consequentialist theories, and notice that they emphasize on one particular value to judge whether an action is or is not moral. The idea of well-being cuts through all that nonsense and represents all the values that we hold. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Theistic, Objective Morality&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main issue with theistic, objective morality is that there is no such thing -- it's almost a contradiction in terms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If morality is based on their god, then it would be subjective (1) -- dependent on god's mind -- not objective (1) which they claim. The Euthyphro dilemma applies either way. Also, this makes morality arbitrary and quite meaningless -- it's obedience not morals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If morality is not based on their god but simply because god has access to morality via its omniscient, then morality is not dependent on god. It would be possible for us to investigate morality objectively (2) whether or not it is objective (1) or subjective (1). But it also means that the theistic aspect is irrelevant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, even if we ignore the previous two points and simply agree, for the sake of argument, that morality is somehow objective (1), it doesn't solve anything. Theistic morality is practically subjective (2) -- interpreting means that there are so many versions of so many religions, each offering a different (slightly or not) moral code. The theistic case for objective (1) morality and morals is just nonsense to begin with and still nonsense at the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's more egregious in the case of Christianity and Islam (correct me if there are sects who disagree) is that morals DON'T matter because belief in god is the sole (or at least, critical) criteria to enter heaven. All the talk about homosexuals, abortion, rape and murder is irrelevant because if you don't believe, living a moral life will do dick for you, you will still fry in hell anyways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this respect, traditional chinese religious beliefs trump Christianity and Islam because its hell punishes people for immoralities as opposed to disbelief.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4529318016869812620?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4529318016869812620/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4529318016869812620&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4529318016869812620'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4529318016869812620'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/morality-subjective-objective.html' title='Morality: Subjective, Objective'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8071861715395174915</id><published>2011-06-29T10:15:00.007+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-04T17:09:21.067+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><title type='text'>Justification and Beliefs</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Before I continue with the entry proper, I should mention I only wrote this entry because I felt like responding to &lt;a href="http://irreligiously.blogspot.com/2011/06/do-we-need-evidence-to-believe-in-god.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; I read on that blog. However, while I have some interest and ideas about philosophy, I am not a philosopher. This is not an excuse that I be excused from criticism -- I am merely stating that I do not know how to argue formally in philosophy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So the following is simply my thoughts about the topic, not a proper defense of the evidentialist position -- I leave that to people who actually know their stuff better.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;From my viewpoint, the ideas goes something like this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;How do you &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Knowledge is acquired ultimately through experience. Whenever we say we know something, we mean that we saw, heard, felt, etc (ie, sensed/experienced) that something. Even if the knowledge was acquired from someone else (ie, learnt), that someone experience it first or the chain terminates with someone experiencing it directly.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I say I know the apple is red because I can see that the apple is red. Even if I have never seen apples in my life, but I may still say I know the apple is red because someone who saw the apple told me that it is red.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Note that I am not talking about justified propositions yet. I am merely showing that all knowledge claims is founded through experience. Whenever we answer the question "How do you know that?", we answer with some kind of experience, direct or indirect. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Experience and Evidence&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If you experienced something, that something should exist in objective reality in order for you to have experienced it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is true regardless of whether your subjective experience was deceptive or not. If you heard a sound, something must have made the sound (vibrations in the air). If the sound was an auditory hallucination, it is still real but not as vibrations in the air but a neurological malfunction.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So, in principle, if a thing exist, and you experienced it in some way, that experience is some kind of evidence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Forms of Evidence&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Evidence comes in many forms and their reliability differ from one form to another. The simplest form of evidence is the entity itself -- and possibly the most powerful evidence for the existence of the apple is to show the apple itself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We can have a slightly more indirect approach. Let's say we have the apple's peeled skin. We can say we know there was an apple via reasoning that the apple skin must have came from a whole apple originally -- that is unless we know of some method of producing apple skins without apples.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Even more indirectly, we could have no actual physical parts of the apple but, say, photographic evidence of the apple -- providing that there is no forgery. This is indirect observation of the apple.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We could rely on memory and testimony. Someone could have seen the apple sitting in the refrigerator and told you you about it. But just like the other forms of evidence, there are caveats. For the case of memory and perception, we know that human beings are known to misperceive, misremember and miscommunicate. So we adjust the value of such evidence accordingly.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Justified True Beliefs -- Knowledge&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If something is real and experienced in some way, then some kind of evidence would be available. If we have sufficient evidence to be certain (high enough, not absolutely), then we can say we &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; that something is real.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Arguing that evidence is not available for whatever reason is tantamount to saying we don't know that that something is real. Because if we cannot produce evidence, we cannot meaningfully say we know it is real since we can't verify it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Believing something for which there is insufficient evidence is not prohibited by this position -- it addresses knowledge not mere beliefs. One can believe something to be true without &lt;i&gt;knowing&lt;/i&gt; if it is indeed true. With regards to god beliefs, this position is held by agnostic theists -- they believe in god but cannot know for certain it exist.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So jumping straight to the example in the post I was referring to,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;While evidentialism certainly does apply to many things, such as deductive beliefs like 10x20=200, which is derived from from more basic beliefs like 1x2=2 and 10x10=100, there are many beliefs which we hold dear to and think are obviously true that we can't show any evidence for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take for instance the belief from memory that I had coffee at a nearby Starbucks restaurant this morning. You might go, "Aha! Why can't you just go to the cafe I went to this morning and ask the staff if I indeed had coffee then?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not as simple as you think. Suppose that I did go to the cafe, but none of the staff seems to remember I was there this morning -- which is quite plausible. Suppose also that none of my friends or family members knew -- they were all sound asleep, and I did not check into Foursquare. My iPhone battery had died.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Easy, check your wallet, you may say. But the frustrating thing is, I cannot remember how much was in my wallet before, so there is no other reliable evidence that I did go to Starbucks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But isn't it absurd for us to question our memories this way? After all, I am frequently right about my memories. But by saying that your particular memory is accurate because, generally, your memories tend to be true, that is a circular argument. Even if we collect a sample size of 1,000 memories (where no external corroborating evidence is available) and claim that 90 percent of them are true, it does nothing for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This example demonstrates a major dispute with evidentialism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Firstly, about memory.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Memory is admissible as evidence. It is just very poor evidence in the hierarchy in light of the other things we know about memory.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is fine and practical to use just memory to justify beliefs in general but beliefs are only as certain as they can be justified. So beliefs justified purely through memory is weaker than beliefs justified by other forms of evidence. You could claim that it is knowledge but it would be very poorly justified knowledge, ranking so low that it would be close to beliefs, unjustified knowledge.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So if I believe I went to Starbucks purely because I had the memory of that being the case, for practical purposes, good enough. But it still doesn't qualify as knowledge. For that I may need, say a video of me being at Starbucks and perhaps some corroborated eyewitness testimony.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Secondly, isn't it absurd?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Actually, yes, if that it what we're proposing. But it's not. That is why we make a distinction between mundane claims and extraordinary (or simply important) claims.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In a court of law, given the same scenario, you are thought not to have been at Starbucks regardless whether it is true that you went to Starbucks or not, simply because the court only has your word (ie, your memory) and nothing else.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Similarly, the event could be true and you believe it is true, but it will not qualify as knowledge unless you can provide higher standards of evidence. It works somewhat like the burden of proof -- you can believe all you want, but once you try to elevate it to a knowledge claim, you must be able to demonstrate it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So indeed, it would be absurd to require an investigative report for every piece of memory you have. But for practical purposes, we only do that for important and/or extraordinary claims. However, it does not change the fact that we wish &lt;u&gt;to &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; something, there should be evidence&lt;/u&gt; for it. So if my trip to Starbucks is to be an important point to establish, I must be able to demonstrate it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Which is why it is seemingly absurd for scientists and atheists alike to demand evidence for God when they themselves hold beliefs they have no proof for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why should the methodological rigour of scientific experimentation be applied to the question of God? And assuming that it ought to, then shouldn't evidentialism apply to everything else as well -- an absurd notion nonetheless?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is absurd in the sense that it seems like hypocrisy and not because evidentialism is false. And this is the important point. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As mentioned before, we don't ask for and probably don't require &lt;i&gt;sufficient&lt;/i&gt; evidence for mundane beliefs for practical reasons. But it is, in principle, possible to provide evidence for mundane beliefs -- say videoing every aspect of your life if you so wish to verify.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So the question is not "&lt;i&gt;Why should the methodological rigour of scientific experimentation be applied to the question of God?&lt;/i&gt;" since "&lt;i&gt;And assuming that it ought to, then shouldn't evidentialism apply to everything else as well&lt;/i&gt;". Because evidentialism does apply to everything else.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The real question is: Is the belief in the existence of god a mundane one? The answer is no as long as you attempt to elevate it to a knowledge claim (which is almost always the case).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So if god is real, actually existent, where is the evidence to justify him when we should be able to find them in principle?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8071861715395174915?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8071861715395174915/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8071861715395174915&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8071861715395174915'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8071861715395174915'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/06/justification-and-beliefs.html' title='Justification and Beliefs'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4434983428536158616</id><published>2011-06-24T17:40:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-06-24T17:48:57.323+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Others)'/><title type='text'>Morality: Good without gods</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup"&gt;QualiaSoup&lt;/a&gt; has once again made a beautiful video on the topic of morality. I must say that it is quite a wonderful piece of work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/T7xt5LtgsxQ" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And yes, I am in full agreement with him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4434983428536158616?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4434983428536158616/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4434983428536158616&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4434983428536158616'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4434983428536158616'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/06/morality-good-without-gods.html' title='Morality: Good without gods'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/T7xt5LtgsxQ/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8959584483606405979</id><published>2011-06-22T21:00:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-06-22T21:56:15.301+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>New video by TheraminTrees</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's a new video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheraminTrees"&gt;TheraminTrees&lt;/a&gt;, the second part of his 3 part series responding to some questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Pt9x3CnxApo" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8959584483606405979?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8959584483606405979/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8959584483606405979&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8959584483606405979'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8959584483606405979'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/06/new-video-by-theramintrees.html' title='New video by TheraminTrees'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Pt9x3CnxApo/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-7948927668190782466</id><published>2011-06-18T15:30:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-06-18T15:42:19.679+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>Human God</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Just discovered a noteworthy channel, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TrustingDoubt"&gt;TrustingDoubt&lt;/a&gt;, thanks to a shout out by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLivingDinosaur"&gt;TheLivingDinosaur&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's her first video, God's Emotions, of what is to be a 9 part series exploring the psychological aspect of religion:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xIBKfJTw1do" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Visit her &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TrustingDoubt"&gt;channel&lt;/a&gt; to view the second part of the video series.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-7948927668190782466?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/7948927668190782466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=7948927668190782466&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7948927668190782466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7948927668190782466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/06/human-god.html' title='Human God'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/xIBKfJTw1do/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2386325612642522861</id><published>2011-05-28T20:10:00.010+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-29T11:12:38.045+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singaporean'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Belief'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>Truth and evidence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is a response to &lt;a href="http://godhasbuilt.blogspot.com/2011/04/truth-matters.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; by a Christian blogger in Singapore: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The word ‘truth’ in its essence, is already an absolute. But because we live in a post-modern world, we are obliged to asseverate the words ‘absolute truth’; not to prove that we are desperate in being over-emphatic, but to prove that today’s world has murdered truth in its essence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is truth? I define truth as follows, “Truth is an objective reality that is transcendent over man’s subjectivity and bias.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;No major disagreement here. Simply defined, truth is the state of objective reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So let's get to the meat of the post.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What about the myriads of conflicting ‘truths’ out in the world today? It seems that truth has been reduced to mere subjective perceptions. The problem, however, lies not in truth, but in what our standard of truth is. Our standard of truth forms our perception of reality; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I think I understand what you are trying to say here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Truth has not been reduced to mere subjective perceptions. Rather, what people believe to be the truth is necessarily informed by their perception. What a person perceive to be true is dependent on their criterion of truth. In religion, different religions effectively indoctrinate their adherents with their criterion of truth -- faith, revelation and scripture are often amongst them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;to an Evolutionist science is the standard of the truth of man’s existence, however to a Christian, the Bible is the standard of truth in which God is the truth of man’s existence. Two perceptions, but there can only be one reality. Therefore to know if our perception of reality is true, we have to examine if our standard is the actual, objective, transcendental and indisputable truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Once again, there seems to be a grave misunderstanding. To "an evolutionist" (this label is frankly as stupid as "a newtonian" or "a germist"), science itself is NOT the standard of truth.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The term "evolutionist" here seems to be referring to people who accept the scientific method and its findings. These people, scientists, lay people and everyone in between, accept that evidence is an important, if not the most critical, criterion of truth. Science is a method that fulfills that criterion. As such, it would seem that an "evolutionist" is using science as a standard -- but no, we're just going where the evidence leads.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now on to the idea of using the Bible as the standard of truth. To me, or any evidence-based truth seekers, that's a huge unjustified leap. To even begin using the Bible as a standard, any sane person must first justify with evidence why that should be the case. Without evidence, any book would be as reasonable as any other to use -- ie, not reasonable at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And the historical and archeological evidence indicate that the bible is: a translation of several books written by different authors, who are believed to be divinely inspired, decades after the events which they purport to describe by non-eyewitnesses whose stories were transmitted by hearsay in the intervening decades. Some books were anonymous and had their authors ascribed to them by the Church based on belief/conviction, and there are variants of these books from different time periods displaying textual changes both due to error and deliberate action indicating forgery. These books also contain both internal contradictions and contradictions with known historical and scientific facts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I'll chuck the whole compilation instead of using it as a standard for anything at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It's not science versus the bible. It's just evidence -- the most critical tool of verification. What better way to find truth than with pieces of reality itself, evidence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Consider this example. On one side, there are people who deny immortality and claim that when we die we just cease to exist. At the other camp, people are declaring that we will spend eternity in hell unless we believe in Christ Jesus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Again, we, scientifically minded people, are not necessarily asserting a case like religions do. We are merely concluding based on the evidence we have.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Every piece of evidence we have gathered about the mind and the brain indicate that the mind cannot exist without a living brain.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;By the way, we don't deny immortality -- we just don't believe in your kind of supernatural immortality. Biological immortality may be a possibility within the decades to come.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Two perceptions, but there can only be one reality. Therefore I urge you, to thoroughly examine your standard of truth because if not, you might one day find yourself in deep trouble for being so obstinate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I've done that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And &lt;i&gt;excuse me&lt;/i&gt;, is that an allusion to hell?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2386325612642522861?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2386325612642522861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2386325612642522861&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2386325612642522861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2386325612642522861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/truth-and-evidence.html' title='Truth and evidence'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8271424511465794640</id><published>2011-05-27T18:00:00.004+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-29T10:59:40.584+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>Atheism is NOT a religion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The following is a point by point response to the blog article, &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-lose/atheism-religion_b_867217.html"&gt;Has Atheism Become a Religion? by David Lose&lt;/a&gt; on The Huffington Post.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Has Atheism Become a Religion?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before you dismiss the question out of hand, consider these four inter-related bits of evidence:&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Actually, I don't have to dismiss this "out of hand". I'll say, right there, you have already gotten it wrong by definition. But let's hear what else you have to say.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;1) &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/us/27atheists.html?_r=2&amp;amp;scp=1&amp;amp;sq=military%20chaplains&amp;amp;st=cse"&gt;As recently reported in the New York Times&lt;/a&gt;, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs. As the Times article notes, "Defense Department statistics show that about 9,400 of the nation's 1.4 million active-duty military personnel identify themselves as atheists or agnostics, making them a larger subpopulation than Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists in the military." Having their own chaplains, the article explains, would give Atheists a sense of legitimacy and help validate their own system of values and beliefs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This bullshit is easy to spot since he actually provides the link to the report he cites. Here's a telling paragraph from the report:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;“Humanism fills the same role for atheists that Christianity does for Christians and Judaism does for Jews,” Mr. Torpy said in an interview. “It answers questions of ultimate concern; it directs our values.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If you can't tell the distinction between atheism, Secular Humanism and religion, perhaps you could, I don't know, try looking up Wikipedia at least?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Atheism is simply the lack of the belief in god(s).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular Humanism is, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;According to Wikipedia,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secular Humanism, alternatively known as Humanism (often with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism), is a secular philosophy that espouses human reason, ethics, and justice, and the search for human fulfillment. &lt;i&gt;It specifically rejects religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience or superstition as the basis of morality and decision-making.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secular Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that focuses on the way human beings can lead happy and functional lives. Though it posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or God, it neither assumes humans to be inherently or innately good, nor presents humans as "above nature" or superior to it. Rather, the Humanist life stance emphasizes the unique responsibility facing humanity and the ethical consequences of human decisions. &lt;i&gt;Fundamental to the concept of Secular Humanism is the strongly held belief that ideology — be it religious or political — must be thoroughly examined by each individual and not simply accepted or rejected on faith. Along with this belief, an essential part of Secular Humanism is a continually adapting search for truth, primarily through science and philosophy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;While Secular Humanism is recognized functionally as a religion in the eyes of the law, I'd argue that it is not a religion in general. It specifically rejects faith and dogma. There is no claim about afterlife, deities or any supernatural entities. It's not religion, just a philosophy -- unless of course you wish to muddy the discussion by castrating the word "religion". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Even if most atheists are Secular Humanists, it doesn't make atheism a religion. Ever.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;2) The U.S. Government reports that in 2008 those identifying themselves specifically as "Atheist" composed the 18th largest group of 43 possible categories of "self-described religious identification." The number of persons so identifying themselves almost doubled from seven years earlier. Admittedly, "Atheist" is one of the options listed under "no religion specified," but given that other options for respondents included checking "Agnostic" or "No Religion" or not answering the question at all, it appears that identifying oneself specifically as an Atheist, as opposed to simply "not religious," is growing in appeal....&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;It's called accuracy. And accuracy counts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Non-religious is a vague group because it encompasses both theists who are not in an organized religion and nontheists. The label, atheist, solves this problem and accurately represents our position on the question of god and religion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;... This points to the utility of a distinction made by Jonathan Lanman between "non-theists," those with no particular religious belief, and "strong atheists," those who view religion not only as irrelevant but as misguided and dangerous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Well then, he's fucked too, feeding you misleading information. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Firstly, the term "strong atheist" refers to a subset of atheists who positively claim that there are no gods. In general, this is a minority and does not represent all atheists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secondly, the term "non-theists" includes ALL atheists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Lastly, people who think that religion is misguided and dangerous are called "anti-religionists". And this category is entirely separate from the theism-atheism distinction. One can be either a theist or atheist and be against religions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And yes, some atheists are anti-religious but please get your facts straight. This second "bit of evidence" does nothing for his case.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;3) Similarly, it's worth noting the degree to which Atheists routinely, strategically, and often vociferously position what is often described as their "secular-humanist" views against religious traditions. Read or listen to any of the celebrity Atheists of the past decade like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris and you realize that they fashion many of their arguments not against some alternative economic, political, or philosophical position but against organized religion. Religious faith is clearly their primary opponent in the contest for the intellectual allegiance of the population, which makes it hard not to conclude that they offer their views and beliefs as a viable alternative to traditional religious systems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Well, you got part of it right but the conclusion you seem to be drawing is all fucking wrong.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We are offering an alternative to religion: it's having NO religion. We are not selling you another religion; we're asking you to give it up. We're asking you to give up religious dogma for freethinking. We're asking you to give up religious supernatural nonsense for demonstrable reality. Again, unless you're trying to castrate the word "religion", you make no sense offering this "bit of evidence" for your case.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;4) Finally -- and you probably knew this was coming -- consider all the comments made by self-identified Atheists on articles published in the Religion section of the Huffington Post. Seriously. Either Atheists have way more time on their hands than the rest of the population or they've got something to prove. This assertive, us-against-them tone (in this case, against established religion) is characteristic of new religions. (Think of the Christian gospels', especially Matthew and John, stance toward first-century Judaism, for example.) As Rabbi David Wolpe observed a few months ago, there is an astonishing garrulousness to the comments made by Atheists to posts about religion that suggest not simply a lack of interest in, or even disdain for, religion but a competitive anger directed against persons of traditional religious faith. (Obviously plenty of religious folk radiate the same garrulousness, but this post is about Atheists.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What the fuck? Because we're aggressive against religion, we're a new religion? Bite me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So the abolitionist were advocating a new form of slavery? And animal-rights activists are advocating a new form of animal abuse? People are against pedophiles because they want to engage in pedophilia too? Wow, the logic is impeccable! [/sarcasm]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Taken together, these four elements suggest that Atheists regularly demonstrate attributes -- desire for spiritual sustenance, the importance of self-identification, offering their worldview as an alternative to other religious systems, and an assertive if not competitive style of engagement with other religious points of view -- usually exhibited by religious folk of all persuasions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Atheism as a movement doesn't have the formal structure, celebrations, or creedal dogmas of organized religions, we might at least identify Atheism as it exists today as an increasingly vibrant faith tradition. Still, when speaking of Atheists, why use the f-word (for "faith," silly) rather than speak of a worldview or personal philosophy? Three reasons suggest themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I've already pointed out why the four "bits of evidence" are bullcrap so let's not reiterate here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But screw me, he's actually going to throw the old "you have faith like us" argument again.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;1) It conveys that both a conventional religious worldview and atheistic worldview require a measure of faith. I don't mean this simply about the rather limited question of whether God exists, but rather about whether the material, physical dimension of life immediately apparent to our senses is all there is. The question can't be reduced, as Atheists regularly have, to observing that there are many beliefs -- in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus as well as God -- that can't be proved and must be taken on faith, but rather to ask whether there is a dimension of existence that supersedes or eludes our physical senses. Ultimately, any speech about God implies such a dimension that conversation about the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus do not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We don't have faith the same way religious people do. In fact, we reject faith because we think that it is an invalid path to truth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let's take a look at the dictionary:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;faith&amp;nbsp; (feɪθ) — n&lt;br /&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence&lt;br /&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a specific system of religious beliefs: the Jewish faith&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Christianity&amp;nbsp; trust in God and in his actions and promises&lt;br /&gt;4. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a conviction of the truth of certain doctrines of religion, esp when this is not based on reason&lt;br /&gt;5. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; complete confidence or trust in a person, remedy, etc&lt;br /&gt;6. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; any set of firmly held principles or beliefs&lt;br /&gt;7. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; allegiance or loyalty, as to a person or cause &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Atheists, those who reach their atheism via skepticism, reject faith according to definitions 1 and 4. Definitions 2, 3, 5, 6 and 7 don't apply to atheism (a &lt;i&gt;single&lt;/i&gt; belief or position).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So what faith do we have again? We do not have faith -- we deliberately excised it because it is the surest way to keep you away from the truth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;2) Religious faith -- and I'd argue atheistic faith -- doesn't begin and end with the question of God or a spiritual dimension to life. One needs also to construct an interpretation of life (describing its purpose, goal, worth) and set of values by which to live that life. Ethics and values are not self-evident from religious creeds -- witness, for instance, the distinct values of the varieties of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam that run the gamut from liberal to fundamentalist. Similarly, there is no self-evident value system shared by Atheists and projecting such a system requires imagination, critical reflection and, yes, faith.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Again, see previous. Critical reflection and imagination should be quite sufficient.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Third, characterizing both organized religion and emergent Atheism as distinct faith traditions invites a measure of mutual regard and even respect that is sorely lacking in present discourse. Professing belief in God, as well as rejecting such belief, each requires equal measures of imagination and nerve. As it turns out, doubt is not the opposite of faith; certainty is. For this reason, we can hold out the hope that religious and non-religious believers alike may recognize in each other similar acts of courage and together reject the cowardice of fundamentalism, whether religious or secular. Being able to disagree respectfully is a small but significant step that believers and non-believers could take as they, together, contemplate admiring, understanding, and preserving this wondrous world we share.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;No, neither certainty nor doubt is the opposite of faith -- Reason is; something that we embrace and the religious ignore or even despise.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;All in all, this article is just full of misunderstandings of what atheists are.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8271424511465794640?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8271424511465794640/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8271424511465794640&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8271424511465794640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8271424511465794640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/atheism-is-not-religion.html' title='Atheism is NOT a religion'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-968900583777041038</id><published>2011-05-25T10:00:00.008+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-25T17:32:31.105+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secularism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>Clash of Church and State in the Philippines</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Once again, the sex obsessed Catholic Church is rearing its ugly head, this time in the Philippines over the Reproductive Health (RH) bill.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Independent reports in its news article, &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/church-and-state-clash-over-sex-and-condoms-in-the-philippines-2286084.html"&gt;Church and State clash over sex and condoms in the Philippines&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A 13-year battle between church and state in the Philippines, one of the world's most devoutly Catholic nations, has come to a head over government plans to provide free condoms and sex education. Catholic bishops have threatened to excommunicate President Benigno Aquino over a reproductive health bill introduced into the Congress yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;The aim of the bill is to control population growth, reduce HIV infection rates and eradicate the need for women to seek backstreet abortions. Mr Aquino, who is determined to see it become law, is prepared to be banished from the church, if necessary. "I have been taught in school, which was a Catholic institution, that the final arbiter really is our conscience," he said yesterday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;But the church, which has enormous clout in the Philippines, is not about to give way. Since 1998, it has quashed several previous versions of the bill. "Sex is not a game that should be taught to children, along with the use of condoms, supposedly to avoid disease," the Archbishop of Manila, Gaudencio Rosales, told an anti-contraception rally in the capital two months ago.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I appreciate the president of the Philippines for, effectively, holding the wall between Church and State. While I am not a Filipino, it is nice to see politicians &lt;i&gt;do the right thing&lt;/i&gt; despite opposition from religious lobbies instead of succumbing to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But as usual, there are always some politicians happy to smear their religious beliefs all over their politics.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;As well as the powerful church, Mr Aquino is opposed by one of the most popular figures in the Philippines, the world champion boxer turned congressman Manny Pacquiao.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="font-null"&gt;Mr Pacquiao said this week that he would never have been born, or become a champion, if his parents had used contraception. "God said go forth and multiply," he declared. "He did not say just go and have one or two children."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What a vacuous statement. If your parents were doing &lt;i&gt;ANYTHING&lt;/i&gt; other than fucking at that moment when they did have sex to produce you, you wouldn't exist. So? What's your point?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And may I ask why anyone is obliged to care what you believe your god said in an ancient book of inconclusive authorship? Thankfully, there is still sane people in their government to put this nutter in place. According to ABS-CBN news,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;She (Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago) also criticized his use of the biblical quote, "Go forth and multiply."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The Bible does not say, 'Go out to the world.' It sounds very much like God is encouraging us to go out and copulate in public. God said in the Bible, "Go forth and multiply." That meant that God wanted man, not necessarily to literally multiply, but to go out to work with the rest of the human beings of this planet and to apply the stewardship theory. Meaning to say, taking care of each other, who are all in the planet living together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I would like to say if this is going to be a debate of biblical quotes, then I will counter with a quote: 'The devil can cite scripture for its purposes,'" she said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She also called on Pacquiao &lt;b&gt;not to read and interpret the Bible to literally, pointing out that the Bible was not even written by God himself.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is very dangerous to be a fundamentalist. Apparently that's what Pacquiao is. He reads the Bible literally. &lt;b&gt;The Bible was not written by God&lt;/b&gt; ... Nobody has a monopoly of the thoughts of God," she told Senate reporters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Nice. More public figures should state that publicly, thank you -- 'cause it seems like nobody bloody knows that. She also said,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;She also said the separation of church and state should be maintained.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Because the principle of church and state, while we respect the freedom of speech of people of every persuasion across religious boundaries, still we have to stand up for the principle in democratic governance that the church cannot dictate to the state. So the State must always argue in favor of free speech and free conscience, that is why I call this a freedom of conscience issue," she added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's another politician with his head screwed on right --&amp;nbsp; voicing the core reason for defending the separation of Church and State here as reported by &lt;a href="http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2011/05/22/duterte-church-respect-president-s-stand-rh-156954"&gt;Sun.Star Davao newspaper&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Duterte said the Catholics who believe in the stand of the Church and the warnings of the priests can do so, however, he said the Philippines cannot be ruled by the Roman Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Iba-iba naman ang relihiyon. As I said, within this country, there are people who believe in God, and there are those who do not believe in God," Duterte explained.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Church cannot speak on behalf of everyone, he added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I'm not going to comment much about the Church's stance here -- it suffice to say that the Church's morals are "biblical", as in centuries behind on moral progress.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-968900583777041038?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/968900583777041038/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=968900583777041038&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/968900583777041038'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/968900583777041038'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/clash-of-church-and-state-in.html' title='Clash of Church and State in the Philippines'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8279647155287948296</id><published>2011-05-23T09:00:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-23T09:50:18.211+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>After the Rapture</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Gotta love &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt; for his latest video.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/f9KlMWzKj4s" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8279647155287948296?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8279647155287948296/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8279647155287948296&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8279647155287948296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8279647155287948296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/after-rapture.html' title='After the Rapture'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/f9KlMWzKj4s/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1788630946410662658</id><published>2011-05-20T08:30:00.006+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-29T11:12:23.518+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singaporean'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abiogenesis'/><title type='text'>Confusing Abiogenesis and Evolution</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Coming from a creationist's perspective, religious folk advocating some form of creationism always seems to fail to the grasp the distinction between the field of abiogenesis and the theory of evolution. Deliberately or not, they frequently conflate the two, claiming a "flaw" in abiogenesis therefore constitutes a flaw in the theory of evolution. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Even Wikipedia states different definitions for abiogenesis and evolution: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In natural science, abiogenesis (pronounced /ˌeɪbaɪ.ɵˈdʒɛnɨsɪs/ ay-by-oh-jen-ə-siss) or biopoesis is the study of how biological life arises from inorganic matter through natural processes, and &lt;b&gt;the method by which life on Earth arose&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Evolution (also known as biological or organic evolution) is the change over time in one or more inherited traits found in populations of organisms.&lt;/b&gt; Inherited traits are particular distinguishing characteristics, including anatomical, biochemical or behavioural characteristics, that are passed on from one generation to the next. Evolution may occur when there is variation of inherited traits within a population. The major sources of such variation are mutation, genetic recombination and gene flow. &lt;b&gt;Evolution has led to the diversification of all living organisms from a common ancestor&lt;/b&gt;, which are described by Charles Darwin as "endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Notice the distinction, please. Abiogenesis is the field of study of how life &lt;i&gt;arose&lt;/i&gt;. Evolution is the theory which explains how life &lt;i&gt;diversified&lt;/i&gt;. Even if I grant that we have no clue whatsoever as to how life arose, we know that &lt;i&gt;once it did&lt;/i&gt;, it most surely diversified by the mechanisms proposed by the theory of evolution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I'll be referring to &lt;a href="http://godhasbuilt.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrationality-of-evolution.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; made by a Christian in Singapore.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Right of the bat, the post would be more accurately describing its content if it were titled "The irrationality of Abiogenesis".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Probably the greatest difficulty of all for evolutionary theory is explaining how any life could have begun in the first place. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The theory of evolution is not supposed to explain how life begun. It describes how life diversified. Even if you want to shoehorn god into the picture as the creator of the first cell, that cell would be the ancestor of all life on Earth and evolved by mechanisms described by the theory of evolution. We know life evolved as surely as we know that the Earth orbits the Sun.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The spontaneous generation of even the simplest living organism capable of independent life (the prokaryote bacterial cell) from inorganic materials on the earth could not happen by random mixing of chemicals: it requires intelligent design and craftsmanship so complex that no advanced scientific laboratory in the world has been able to do it&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The simplest living organism today is certainly more complex than the simplest living organism when life first started. This argument from complexity fails right there. Scientists studying abiogenesis are not proposing that the first cell is as complex as the simplest &lt;i&gt;modern&lt;/i&gt; cell.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Also, this strange ultimatum between spontaneous generation of complex cells and intelligent design is a false dichotomy. Scientists are not proposing that the complexity of life as we know it today arose purely by chance. You get this monstrous error by conflating abiogenesis and evolution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A living organism emerged by chance from a pre-biotic soup is about as likely as that ‘a tornado sweeping through a junkyard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein.’ Chance assembly is just a naturalistic way of saying ‘miracle’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Again, this results from a confusion of abiogenesis and evolution. No scientists is proposing that a cell displaying the modern complexities appeared by chance. That would be just as nonsensical to you as to the scientists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, check out the &lt;a href="http://exploringorigins.org/rnaworld.html"&gt;RNA World Hypothesis&lt;/a&gt; for what scientist mean by the first "cell". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In fact, some attempts have been made to calculate the probability of life arising spontaneously in his way. Kofahl and Segraves, authors of “The Creation Explanation”, give a statistical model in which they begin with a very generous assumption: that every square foot of the earth’s surface was somehow covered with 95 pounds of protein every year for one billion years. They then estimate the probability that even one enzyme molecule could develop in each one billion years of the earth’s history. The probability is 1.2 times 10&lt;sup&gt;-11&lt;/sup&gt; or one chance in 80 billion. They note, however, that even with the generous assumptions and starting with fresh protein every year for a billion years, finding one enzyme molecule—for all practical purposes an impossible task—would not solve the problem at all. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The probability of finding two of the active molecules would be about 10&lt;sup&gt;22&lt;/sup&gt;, and the probability that they would be identical would be 10&lt;sup&gt;70&lt;/sup&gt;. And could life start with just a single enzyme molecule? Furthermore, what is the possibility that an active enzyme molecule, once formed, could find its way through thousands of miles and millions of years to that randomly formed RNA or DNA molecule which contains the code for that particular enzyme molecule’s amino acid sequence, so that new copies of itself could be produced? Zero for all practical purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kofahl and Segraves report a study by an evolutionary scientist who formulates a model to calculate the probability for the formation, not just of one enzyme molecule but the smallest likely living organism by random processes. He comes up with a probability of one chance in 10&lt;sup&gt;340,000,000&lt;/sup&gt;—that is, one chance in 10 with 340 million zeros after it! Yet these evolutionary scientists still believed it happened!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The rest of the article is basically an attempt to awe audiences with numbers. And it's redundant - I'll explain.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But first, get this straight first. We're going to be talking about Abiogenesis - nothing to do with the theory of evolution. Unlike Abiogenesis where scientists are only proposing hypotheses, the Theory of Evolution is firmly established with mountains of evidence and has the consensus of the scientific community. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's the thing: Abiogenesis may have been a rare chance event. So throwing really low probabilities (even if the numbers are accurate) at abiogenesis is really redundant - we already know that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What is important here is the claim that creationists are making: Too rare therefore God did it. But "God did it" is not an explanation at all - it has no explanatory function.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The field of abiogenesis at the very least demonstrates that it is possible for life to have occurred by natural means. The various hypotheses represent the ways by which life might have arose though we do not know definitively which path it took yet.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Postulating a god is not only unscientific, it is redundant. It is also a huge argument from ignorance. &lt;i&gt;What, you scientists don't know how life arose? Ahha! Obviously God did it!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If your creationist argument take the form of "Too rare/complex, therefore God", it's a fallacious argument to begin with - still just an argument from ignorance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Not knowing how life arose is not argument for god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recommend checking out &lt;a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/"&gt;TalkOrigins: Index to Creationist Claims&lt;/a&gt; for creationists (or any lay person) who don't understand what evolution is and is not. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1788630946410662658?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1788630946410662658/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1788630946410662658&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1788630946410662658'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1788630946410662658'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/confusing-abiogenesis-and-evolution.html' title='Confusing Abiogenesis and Evolution'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4830531801147435245</id><published>2011-05-19T18:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T13:51:35.800+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secularism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>Secularism, what is that really?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Okay, let me put it upfront that the article I'll be referring to is old news, really old news, like 2009 old news. Unfortunately, the nonsense in the article is not unnecessarily old. It does seem that Christians in Singapore are importing American Evangelical nonsense. I will use this opportunity to clarify what secularism is and is not. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;There seems to be few sources that have the interview of Thio Li-Ann archived. So I'll be using &lt;a href="http://www.we-are-aware.sg/2009/05/28/religion-the-secular-state/"&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; archived by AWARE. It should be sufficient for my purposes since I'm not going to be deconstructing the whole interview. If you want that, then I would recommend this &lt;a href="http://heresthenews.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-line-between-religion-and-politics.html"&gt;other blog's post&lt;/a&gt; - it's quite well done I think. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Historically, ‘secularism’ originates from the Latin ‘saeculum’, meaning ‘temporal’, worldly affairs, rather than ‘spiritual’, other-worldly matters. The word ‘secular’ is an emblem of intense historical conflict.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, in some circles, ‘secularism’ connotes systematic hostility towards religion, as a synonym for a politicised form of ideological atheism whose creed is that humanity is destined to wholly shed religious conviction. The atheistic word was made flesh in the atheistic state produced by the Russian Revolution of 1917, devoted to Marx’s assumption that religion stupefies the masses and must be eradicated to bring forth the new Communist Man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1989, Foreign Minister George Yeo observed the Government was ‘secular but it is certainly not atheistic’. This evinces a rejection of a thick, atheistic version of secularism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here is a truncated quote from the interview. Notice the attempt to confuse and conflate atheism and secularism?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Guess what? Secularism and atheism are two completely different things. This attempt to confuse the issue is a dishonest ploy to evoke feelings of opposition to secularism from religious folks.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For the record, if the state/government endorses atheism or antitheism, it is by definition, NOT secular. As such, there is NO such thing as an "atheistic version of secularism". Secularity of the government only means that the government just remain neutral in matters pertaining to the religious beliefs of its citizens.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular humanism, which posits a morality independent of God, is a comprehensive anti-theistic world view. Some courts recognise it as a religion. It dogmatically asserts the absence of God, without any empirical evidence. We know from elementary logic that it is impossible to prove a universal negative. Whether God exists or not cannot be proved or disproved by evidence or logic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It takes faith to believe or not to believe in God or gods. A lot of faith is needed to believe there is no divine. As Turkish journalist Mustafa Akyol wrote: ‘It is the atheist’s opium to regard that unsubstantiated faith as established fact.’ Thick secularism is thus an anti-religion religion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Again, an attempt to conflate secularism with atheism, this time, as well as Secular Humanism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It's important to go through this point by point to clarify the confusion about Secular Humanism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular humanism, which posits a morality independent of God, is a comprehensive anti-theistic world view.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular Humanism is atheistic in nature though not necessarily antitheistic. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here is the Minimum Statement on Humanism:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular Humanists themselves may be antitheistic but it is not a dogmatic requirement of the stance. In fact, Secular Humanism rejects dogmas.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Some courts recognise it as a religion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The recognition of Secular Humanism as a "religion" is for functional reasons in the eyes of the law.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It dogmatically asserts the absence of God, without any empirical evidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;No, it doesn't. That has it ass backwards.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Precisely because there is no empirical evidence FOR the existence of god(s), Secular Humanists do not believe there is/are god(s). The distinction between "do not believe in the existence of god" and "believe there are no gods" is subtle but still important! We simply do not pretend there is one (or more gods) - instead we believe only we, humans, can help ourselves (hence the humanist aspect).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We know from elementary logic that it is impossible to prove a universal negative. Whether God exists or not cannot be proved or disproved by evidence or logic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Gee, except that's not what we're claiming - we haven't disproved god nor can we.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;While we can't prove (in correct usage of the word) the existence of god(s), we should be able to demonstrate  &lt;i&gt;IF&lt;/i&gt; he/she/it exist. But we haven't; Still waiting for those people with the burden of proof to bring in the evidence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And now we'll move onto the rest of the nonsense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secular democracies should be neutral not only between traditional religions but also regarding modern religions with atheistic foundations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What in the world is "modern religions with atheistic foundations"? Some forms of Buddhism is atheistic but that sure isn't modern. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Again, it seems that this is yet another attempt to claim that atheism somehow constitutes a religion. Well, it isn't. Being an atheist effectively means having no religion. Lacking belief in god makes you an atheist; No rational atheist asserts that god(s) do not exist and even those who do make that assertion are not organising a religion!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But let's move straight to most important part, the biggest "misunderstanding",&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Thus, Singapore secularism is 'agnostic' and 'thin'. The Government does not favour or disfavour any particular religion. We practise 'accommodative secularism' described by the Court of Appeal as removing restrictions to one's choice of religious belief. Religious values do have a role in public debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agnostic secularism of this sort is a virtue; it is a 'framework' which facilitates the peaceful co-existence of religions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conversely, militant secularism is an illiberal and undemocratic vice in seeking to gag religious views in the public square and so to privilege its atheistic values, as in communist states.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secular fundamentalists are oppressive where they seek to mute religiously informed convictions in public debate, by demonising a view as religious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The distinction between "accommodative" and "millitant" secularism is &lt;i&gt;fucking nonsense&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Okay, I won't be quoting anymore. Here on is my explanation for secularism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secularism is one of the constitutional devices that sought to protect the people from the state (government) and vice versa, in this case, from religious discrimination. It means that the state must remain neutral towards religion, that is, the state cannot endorse any religions (no preferential treatment, no favorite or state religion) and cannot discriminate against any religion. This guarantees freedom of religion (as well as &lt;i&gt;from religion&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Maybe it would be clearer if I used hypothetical examples.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It means the government cannot come out tomorrow and announce that Buddhism is the state religion of Singapore and its temples will now enjoy tax free status that other religions are not entitled.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It means the state cannot proclaim that we have amended the Singapore Pledge and it will now read:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We, the citizens of Singapore,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;accept our Lord Jesus Christ as our one and only savior&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;regardless of race, language &lt;i&gt;or gender&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It means we cannot write into our law that all pork and pig related products shall be banned and no non-halal stalls will ever be permitted.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It means the Prime Minister cannot proclaim that we will now endorse state atheism and will now print "One Nation under No Gods" on our dollar bills.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Clearer now?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secularism also means that members of the government cannot inject their religion into our constitution, our laws or anything endorsed by the government.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We may not inject Creationism into our national Science curriculum at our public schools.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We may not criminalized abortion on the basis of any religious doctrine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We may not discriminate against homosexuals on the basis of &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; holy text.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We may not allow state-led prayer in our Parliament or public schools.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And yes, those examples come from America where religious nuts are trying to destroy the secularity of the USA.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To put it simply, secularism means you cannot impose your religious views on others via the government but neither can the government tell you what you can or cannot believe/do because of someone else's religion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I hope you can see that that's a good thing, otherwise, you might be a bigot or possibly a theocrat... just guessing...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4830531801147435245?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4830531801147435245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4830531801147435245&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4830531801147435245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4830531801147435245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/secularism-what-is-that-really.html' title='Secularism, what is that really?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4472506433247966361</id><published>2011-05-18T20:30:00.005+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-29T11:13:21.251+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singaporean'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Secularism'/><title type='text'>Violating Secularity, not actually</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sorry, this is old news. Not even news actually. But I thought I should voice my opinion because it's an atheist in Singapore who seem to think that the secularity of his school was violated. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's the relevant excerpts from &lt;a href="http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/28/violation-of-secularism-in-a-singapore-jc/"&gt;the letter&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I feel uncomfortable in TJC because I witnessed a violation of secularism in TJC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few months ago, around May, the 32nd Student Council of TJC stood down and hand over to the 33rd SC. On&amp;nbsp;the day, the President of the 32nd Student Council addressed the cohort. At the end of her address, she close with the phrase of “God Bless”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The ministry might think that the fault lies in the individual. But I am very surprise that the college did not make any clarification to the address. which I take it as they agree with the phrase. When the speech included the phrase “God Bless”, I believed that a Secular school like TJC would have clarified without any one complaing or enquring in the first place. But the lack of action of TJC with regards to this violation of secularism in school is rather shocking. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I really don't think this qualifies as a violation of secularism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Firstly, does the president of the student council represent the (government) school and its official position? I doubt it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Secondly, "God bless" has become a generic phrase similar to "Oh my god!" where the speaker may not actually be invoking their deity but simply wishing the audience well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;She is, in fact, allowed to voice her religious opinions although she may have come across as being distasteful to some atheists and possibly polytheists. But then again, she's allowed, to some degree, be distasteful if she wants to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in this case, she merely made a possibly religiously charged well wishing. She wasn't declaring that her religion is the one and only true religion. She wasn't telling her audience that deserved to burn in hell. She was neither promoting her religion over any others nor denigrating any.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So this letter sounds a lot like making a mountain out of, not a molehill, nothing to me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4472506433247966361?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4472506433247966361/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4472506433247966361&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4472506433247966361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4472506433247966361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/violating-secularity-not-actually.html' title='Violating Secularity, not actually'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4906926206814657225</id><published>2011-05-17T21:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-19T21:33:36.099+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Atheists and religious families</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt; has recently uploaded two videos pertaining to atheists and their religious family and upbringing. It's worth a watch.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4zZytbe1a9s" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/l7Peq6lrMxY" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4906926206814657225?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="257" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/g9x_oa--KAc" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-402361401747215419?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/402361401747215419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=402361401747215419&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/402361401747215419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/402361401747215419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/evidentialism.html' title='Evidentialism'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/g9x_oa--KAc/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3933681292280696215</id><published>2011-05-08T22:00:00.005+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-09T00:00:55.612+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Belief'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Superstition'/><title type='text'>Why are you praying?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Believers of all kinds pray at one point or another. The more religious of the bunch pray as and when they feel that a personal communication is required to ask their respective deity for assistance or enlightenment. Others pray as a matter of ritual routinely at their places of worship. Less devout ones pray only when they are troubled and desperate for any kind of help that may seem to alleviate their anxiety.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I can almost say that I feel disappointed with this huge segment of the population. And I want to ask: why do you pray?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In this post, I am not addressing ritualistic prayer - that I really couldn't care for anyways. But I am looking at those who believe that prayer is some kind of communication to their god where the god  would offer assistance and/or enlightenment in response.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For believers who subscribe to a god who is simultaneously omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscience (all-knowing) and benevolent (all-good),&amp;nbsp; the question is: why bother? An all-knowing god already knows that you are praying and what you are praying about - in this case, the prayer is a superfluous act. To an all-powerful, all-knowing god, your prayer is futile since he would have acted according to your wishes if he had wanted to. And for an all-good god, you shouldn't need to pray in the first place if you understand the implications.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;That mostly deals with the Abrahamic &lt;i&gt;versions&lt;/i&gt; of the monotheistic God. Presumably it should also deal with most other deities worthy of the prayer in the first place (after all, why bother praying for assistance from a god incapable of rendering them).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's another thought: why do you think that a god would even give a damn about your prayer? A divine being caring about your pathetic cries for help over some earthly &lt;i&gt;human&lt;/i&gt; issues? Why do you suppose that human beings would be noticed by the god(s)? Just 'cause we're their creations? Aren't the rest of the living world supposedly their creation too? So the zebra being mauled by lions is not worth a damn but your sick uncle is? I know this might sound cruel but think about it, aren't you presupposing that you're so special that even the freaking supreme being of the universe is actually paying full attention to your whines and complaints about your life?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's yet another angle to this issue. You do realize that thousands of (approximately 150,000) people die per day, right? Most of them are not death due to age - rather death by accident, disease or murder. Put it this way, why do you suppose that god would give about a damn about your issues when he evidently doesn't care about those some 150,000 people each day? Presumably, some of those people probably hold the same/similar beliefs about their god as do you. Can you see the arrogance yet?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_dyPiIcLK90" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I could just tell you that there is &lt;i&gt;ZERO &lt;/i&gt;scientific evidence pointing to the efficacy of prayer and neither is there any for the god being prayed to. But I think that will fall on deaf ears, sadly.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I know that at the emotional level, it seems almost cruel to ask someone to not bother praying. In desperate situations, it does seem like the only thing left to do is to pray.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But let me ask you again, why are you praying? Would it actually work? If your friend survives, was it your prayer being answered? Or the effort of the medical personnel? Or sheer luck? Who would you thank? Your god or the doctors? How do you know it was god's doing? What if your kin dies instead? Did your prayer fail? Or was it god's will all the long? Who are you going to blame? The doctor for failing? Or your god?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And if you do recognize that prayer does not work. Why do you do it? Why are you deliberately engaging in a futile act? Just because you're desperate? Is that a reason or an excuse? Do you still think it's a good thing despite its futility? Are you doing it just to make yourself feel good? Just to think that you're actually doing something despite doing absolutely nothing other than wishful thinking?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I don't suppose this would change anyone's mind instantly. But I do hope you think about it. What are you trying to do when you pray? Really.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3933681292280696215?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3933681292280696215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3933681292280696215&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3933681292280696215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3933681292280696215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/why-are-you-praying.html' title='Why are you praying?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/_dyPiIcLK90/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-7116994486418697922</id><published>2011-05-03T14:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-07T12:29:26.567+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Age'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mail'/><title type='text'>I've got mail!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Somebody actually emailed me in defense of Sai Baba.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sai Baba was and is a good man. He was not a god since there is no such thing.  He was not avaricious, pedophiliac and his miracles are true.  They are just exhibitions here on this relatively primitive planet from a higher evolved one (in this case Mercury.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They were meant to aid our humanity in the transition period between two sidereal cycles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He doesn't  really understand this and used the old yoga (bhakti) instead of the new one (Agni). This caused problems with false godworship by his devotees. But then agni yoga is hardly known while millions follow the yoga of devotion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You orthodox atheists should keep your heads the same size as your falsely accused Holymen--if you don't you might have to buy larger, more expensive hats and may open yourselves  also to the charge of avariciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Is it supposed to make sense?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-7116994486418697922?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/7116994486418697922/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=7116994486418697922&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7116994486418697922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7116994486418697922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/05/somebody-actually-emailed-me-in-defense.html' title='I&apos;ve got mail!'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-5407717591812141217</id><published>2011-04-24T13:53:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-04-24T13:53:12.702+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><title type='text'>It's a miracle, not</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sai Baba died. Finally. Pity people will be all "Oh, that's so sad" over a death and forget about all bullshit miracle healing he did (or rather, didn't do).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's TODAYonline's little news report:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hindu holy man Sathya Sai Baba dies In India at 86&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PUTTAPARTI, India (AP) - A doctor says Hindu holy man Sathya Sai Baba,  considered a living god by followers, has died. He was 86.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr.  A.N. Safaya says Sathya Sai Baba died Sunday morning after more than a  week on breathing support and dialysis at the Sri Sathya Sai Institute  of Higher Medical Sciences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Women selling marigold garlands broke  down into tears outside his ashram in Puttaparti village in southern  Andhra Pradesh state. Followers began trickling into the temple complex,  where the holy man's body will be lay in state until Tuesday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The saffron-robed Sathya Sai Baba had a huge following, with ashrams in more than 126 countries across the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;By the way, it's not miracle either if he didn't die. Just so you know.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-5407717591812141217?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/5407717591812141217/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=5407717591812141217&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5407717591812141217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/5407717591812141217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/04/its-miracle-not.html' title='It&apos;s a miracle, not'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1224965203064783551</id><published>2011-04-22T23:00:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-04-22T23:47:01.525+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Superstition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Skepticism'/><title type='text'>A Sick Healer</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It's funny how faith and miracle healers never seem to be able to invoke the same powers they claim to have used to heal thousands to heal themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;India's "spiritual leader" Sai Baba is still in hospital (yes, apparently, actual medicine is preferred) according to BBC news: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;India spiritual leader Sai Baba 'on life support' &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BBC News - 22 April&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of India's most revered spiritual leaders, Satya Sai Baba, is critically ill and on a life-support system, his doctors say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thousands of his followers have begun converging at his home town in southern India, prompting the authorities to step up security.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 84-year-old guru is thought to have millions of followers around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His distinctive orange robes and hairstyle have made him one of India's most recognisable gurus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sai Baba was admitted to a hospital in his hometown of Puttaparthi last month, with what doctors described as lung and chest congestion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After initially showing signs of improvement, his condition become critical once again, they say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A health bulletin issued by the hospital said his vital organs were not responding well to treatment.&lt;br /&gt;Controversial career&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The news of Sai Baba's ill-health has prompted many of his followers to rush to Puttaparthi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Police have erected barricades around the hospital as a safety measure and also announced a ban on large public gatherings to prevent large crowds forming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sai Baba counts former Indian prime ministers, prominent businessmen and cricketers among his followers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But his career has also been dogged by controversy. He has been accused of faking some of the so-called miracles attributed to him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And some former followers have levelled accusations of sexual abuse against him and other members of his ashram - charges that he has denied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He has never been charged by police in connection with these allegations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I'm sorry, I don't believe anyone ever had any kind of healing powers. No, wait, I'm not the least apologetic about it -  Sai Baba included. I'm not the least bit sympathetic either - in fact, I'd  be quite happy to see charlatans die due to ironic causes. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1224965203064783551?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1224965203064783551/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1224965203064783551&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1224965203064783551'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1224965203064783551'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/04/sick-healer.html' title='A Sick Healer'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-989960582867761182</id><published>2011-04-10T14:00:00.009+08:00</published><updated>2011-04-24T13:45:58.754+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Why do I care?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Why do I care about god(s) and religion? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Simple. Because I still give a damn about the world. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We still give a damn about humanity. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is not a crusade against faith and hope. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is not about making religions illegal. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is not building another religion. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To be clear, we don't want another religion and we're not about to make atheism a "religion" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean). We don't think making religions illegal would actually address the core issue. And we certainly are not trying to take away hope and meaning in your life.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We care passionately about skepticism, science and truth. More importantly, we believe humanity as a whole would be much better off embracing an ever more accurate picture of reality and abandoning the rusty shackles of religion, myths and superstition.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is not a superficial attack on religion because we find its adherents' behaviour abhorrent. This is more than that. I find religions themselves abhorrent in every aspect. Religions are not only factually incorrect (or unsupported) but also morally inferior and socially divisive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Failing of Basics&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If for no other reason that religions deserve (intellectual) hostility, it is because it has NEVER been demonstrated to be true. Calling it a lie is only a matter of perspective.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The fact is, the existence of any god(s) has never been demonstrated. There are theologians who presume god(s)' existence, apologists who attempt to essentially argue god(s) into existence but no "theologist" ever demonstrated god(s)' existence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;All the various arguments for god(s) succumb to the some kind of logical fallacy rendering them void. But even if we were to grant that the logical arguments were somehow logically valid and/or sound, they still cannot demonstrate existence. For that we need evidence - evidence that has never been produced for the thousands of years humanity has been inventing gods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Other claims associated with religion has never been demonstrated either. Genuine studies of the efficacy of prayer always turned up negative. Even the idea that increased religiosity would improve societal health is false - the data seems to show that the opposite is the case.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And yet some religious fractions attack the scientific enterprise, built on evidence, and education in general in the name of their god(s). Can we not be furious?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Virus of Faith&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When reason and evidence fail to support the case of god(s), the faithful often turn to faith as the answer. Faith, according to them, is not only a sufficient justification to believe in God or god(s) and their religion but that it is also virtuous and even demanded by God himself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Faith is no such thing. In this context (the way faith is used), faith is the permission slip the faithful give themselves and others to believe in things not demonstrated (colloquially, proved) or demonstrable (colloquially, provable). It is a cop out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In the absence of evidence, the only rational thing anybody should do is to disbelieve the claim. Actually, everybody usually does that. Yet in this one aspect of life, supposedly the most important aspect - God and Religion, the faithful suspend their skepticism and believe uncritically in extravagant claims without the slightest shred of evidence that meet decent evidential standards. Faith is gullibility.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And yet countless tragedies and atrocities were perpetuated with such strong religious conviction based on the flimsiest of reasons. Can we afford to stay silent? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Scourge of Ignorance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Religions are at their very core is a product of ignorance - it is born of ignorance and it breeds ignorance to sustain itself. This is most evident in the fundamentalist variants of the faith. In America, certain Christian fractions push for the pseudoscientific trojan horse of creationism, Intelligent Design, in opposition to the scientific theory of evolution which they apparently do not understand. Even more obscene denials of scientific progress is displayed by Flat Earth societies/proponents from both Christian and Muslim perspectives.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We could probably laugh off Flat-Earthers as silly harmless nonsense. But America has to deal with religious siege on the education of their future pillars of society. Mind you, this shit is spreading across the world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Ignorance also kills. Children die, in this modern age in developed countries, due to the lack of medical treatment - medical treatment that was denied on religious grounds by faithful parents. Arguing that this is a fringe movement/sect does not absolve religious thinking of responsibility.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The dangerous nonsense of faith healing is feeding the bank accounts of fraudulent preachers (whether they believe their own nonsense or they are knowingly conning people) while never delivering any actual demonstration of healing powers. People, both the desperate and the gullible put off seeking actual medical treatment only risk further complications, wasting time and money for false hopes. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The mental, intellectual and physical well-being of people and especially children, humanity's future, is under threat. Can we not speak out and take action against this ludicrous harm?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Muddying of Morals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Religious morals are often, well, not morals at all. The usual arguments for religious morality essentially renders morals to be god(s)' fiats. I shan't go into a morality debate here so to summarize the problem with linking god with morality is distilled down to the Euthyphro dilemma - either morals are arbitrarily defined by god(s) or god is merely a messenger of morality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When it comes to the holy scripture, they are obviously no guide for morality. The only morality it presents is the barbaric outdated morality of Bronze Age nomads. Anyone who wishes to argue that this is not the case may actually have to read the books first.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As usual, there are religious folks, throngs of them, who are vehemently against homosexuality and rights of homosexuals. This justified by the Bible (Leviticus 20:13). There are masses that are against women's reproductive rights, claiming that abortion is murder. This justified by the Bible in some obscure interpretation. Some Islamic countries are even more backwards, having issues even with gender equality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Religions seem to have no clue what morality is but the religious sure are quick to enshrine their morality in law with the implication that anyone who disagree with their brand of morality still has to live by them. Can we just sit back and watch?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We're not staying silent.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We're not going to sit by and watch.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We're speaking out against religious ignorance, intolerance and violence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We're taking action to safeguard the future.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The time is now.&lt;br /&gt;Start CARING&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-989960582867761182?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/989960582867761182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=989960582867761182&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/989960582867761182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/989960582867761182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-do-i-care.html' title='Why do I care?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-362112968991106865</id><published>2011-04-06T09:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T21:13:52.184+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>It is not Islam - It's Religion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is a response to "'Flaming' of Islam has to be stopped" published in the Review and Forum section of The Straits Times, 6 April 2011.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;An American pastor branded a cultist by estranged followers eventually  made good on his threat to burn the Quran. He can now rouse his  dwindling flock by saying President Barack Obama, the Defence Secretary  and the general conducting the Afghanistan campaign could not stop him  from dramatising his beliefs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Okay... So he "won" some boasting rights in some people's perspective. Uh huh.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Which were, what? Of the wanton killings by Muslim rioters that his act  caused in Afghanistan the past week, pastor Terry Jones disputes that he  has blood on his hands. His next act, he suggests, is to place Prophet  Muhammad 'on trial', just as he had the Quran. Its burning had been the  'sentence'.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Bloody fucking nonsense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"Wanton killings by Muslim rioters that his act  caused"? It might as well have read "Failures in School Examinations caused by Science."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This statement brazenly ignores the autonomy of the Muslims involved in the riotings and killings. If I killed a murderer's mother as revenge for the murderer's killing of my mother, would I somehow be relieved of my responsibilities because my actions were a reaction to offences against&amp;nbsp; me? I say not.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;There is nothing theatrical about random acts of provocation.  They are downright dangerous, abetted in some cases by permissive laws.  A case could be made out that there are degrees of madness or delusion  which afflict leaders of cults. But how to define depravity within an  American constitutional context of free speech guarantees? Bringing  decorum to the religious sphere has to start in America because  intolerance tends to find fertile soil in its interior communities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I honestly don't believe that Free Speech itself is the issue here. It is not the root of the problem at hand. Again, blaming Free Speech for permitting religiously motivated hateful speech is like blaming cars for people speeding in them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;That the Quran burning was a triumph of ignorance and bigotry,  there is no doubt. Fair-minded people are rightly alarmed at the  poisonous overtone of religious contestation that arose after the Sept  11 attacks spawned a misleading view of Islam. What is being done to  roll back the prejudice? The pastor's act and that of a Danish newspaper  cartoonist who drew offensive caricatures of the Prophet are signs of  an anti-Islam baiting campaign gathering force. It could get more  widespread, in Europe as well as in America. It will spark retaliatory  mob violence which in turn will harden attitudes against Islam. What  then?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Again, it seems unusual to me that the author of this article passes over the autonomy of the people involved in the "retaliatory mob violence".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So it's not okay to speak ill of others' religion but it's okay to kill people, destroy property because you were pissed over someone speaking ill of your religion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What's the bigger issue here? Somebody needs to get their priorities straight and I don't think it's me...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The American public, politicians and the media have acted sensibly in  condemning the pastor for his stunt. The Quran-burning ritual which took  place on March 20 had been deliberately blacked out by media. It became  public knowledge only after the pastor posted a video of it on his  website. But America may have to go beyond a climate of censure as a  check against intemperance, to consider criminalising incitement in an expansion of hate-crimes legislation.  Arguing free speech as a First Amendment bedrock protection may become  less convincing over time when religious extremists begin to cause  schisms and serious disruptions in society. The European Union has just  as robust protections. Yet Germany and many other European nations still  outlaw denials of the Holocaust and the Jewish extermination. What  could be more injurious to social order in a post-Sept 11 world than the  'flaming' of Islam as sport?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" height="1" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/249142036245875345-3535998540824752470?l=heresthenews.blogspot.com" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The article seeks to pin blame on Free Speech for permitting insults that causes Muslim robots to go insane and kill people. No?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"Bullshit"&amp;nbsp; is an appropriate response I think.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The problem as I see it is two pronged (and Free Speech ain't either one of them) - it is education in general and religion itself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is a failure of education of the public in general. Fundamentalist Christians are thought to be poor in their general knowledge of religions around the world (their religion included). It doesn't help that the religious, conservative segments of the population perpetuate the "Islamist" stereotype of Muslims in general in their communities and some media sources.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;One might argue that the failure of education is due to certain religious attitudes which brings us to the other prong.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Throughout history, religions has demonstrated their ability to cause and catalyse conflicts. This is no exception.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Create insular societies based on unevidenced claims to ultimate truths and a connection to the divine creator of the universe. Follow that up by creating an Us versus Them scenario where "us" is good and godly and "them" is evil and of the devil. Wait for one party to do something perceived as inflammatory by the opposing side and watch the shit hit the fans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Yes, the pastor did something distasteful - he burnt a Quran. And yes, &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; distasteful. It's not the most pleasant or eloquent way of making a point but still, it is a valid point and can/should be discussed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But we don't fucking kill people for it. You can be all pissy and disagree with that pastor but if you go ape-shit and kill somebody over it, you are wrong. Period.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The author seems to skip over this aspect as he attempts to blame Free Speech for the problem as if it was acceptable to murder because someone insulted your religious beliefs. To this, my first&amp;nbsp; response was "WTF?"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Such obscene irrationality on the part of the religious should be condemned whenever and wherever it happens. Instead, here it's seems to be regarded as somehow acceptable because it's religious. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If you don't like people criticizing your religion, perhaps it's your religion that needs fixing - you don't "fix" the people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-362112968991106865?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/362112968991106865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=362112968991106865&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/362112968991106865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/362112968991106865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/04/it-is-not-islam-its-religion.html' title='It is not Islam - It&apos;s Religion'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1668056757448551023</id><published>2011-03-20T11:00:00.004+08:00</published><updated>2011-03-26T00:29:59.149+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book Bits'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God(s)'/><title type='text'>Evidence Concurs</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt; has produced Part 2 to his video, Atheism: A History of God.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yPfFx9JTQl8" title="YouTube video player" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;From the video, it appears that he agrees with &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/03/its-not-really-real-history-of-god.html"&gt;my view of the History of God&lt;/a&gt; by Karen Armstrong. Essentially, we have been inventing gods throughout history without grounding in evidence. And that is the ultimate problem with claims of the existence of gods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;His videos are excellent and I highly recommend them. Here is Part 1 of the video.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MlnnWbkMlbg" title="YouTube video player" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1668056757448551023?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1668056757448551023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1668056757448551023&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1668056757448551023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1668056757448551023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/03/evidence-concur.html' title='Evidence Concurs'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/yPfFx9JTQl8/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-7243280297932415118</id><published>2011-03-05T08:00:00.066+08:00</published><updated>2011-03-05T22:12:53.349+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='History'/><title type='text'>Jesus, Interrupted by Bart Ehrman</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The 4 Gospels are anonymous - the names Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were attached to the books by the early Church. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Of the 13 Pauline Epistles, 6 of them are thought to be forged. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;We do not have any of the original manuscripts of the New Testaments - what we have are copies of copies of copies made much later (decades after Jesus' death). &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mark, Luke and John's portrayal of Jesus are very different from one another, each making different theological points, and cannot be reconciled. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;These are just 4 summary points explained in detail in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman"&gt;Bart D Ehrman&lt;/a&gt;'s book Jesus, Interrupted. The book goes into what scholars know about textual variants and authors of the New Testament, how the Bible was put together, the radically different forms of early Christianity, the birth of antisemitism and Christian doctrines.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I think that any Christians who still give a damn about the Bible should read this book for starters.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;There are 8 chapters:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Historical Assault of Faith&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A World of Contradictions&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Mass of Variant Views&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Who Wrote the Bible?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Liar, Lunatic or Lord? Finding the Historical Jesus&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How We Got the Bible&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Who Invented Christianity?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Is Faith Possible?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The book is an excellent read - very interesting and informative. I would also highly recommend the audio book version for people who don't want to read books.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-7243280297932415118?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/7243280297932415118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=7243280297932415118&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7243280297932415118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/7243280297932415118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/03/jesus-interrupted-by-bart-ehrman.html' title='Jesus, Interrupted by Bart Ehrman'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8246192930938455191</id><published>2011-03-04T19:00:00.019+08:00</published><updated>2011-03-05T21:12:30.228+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='History'/><title type='text'>It's not really real (A History of God)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I have recently acquired A History of God by Karen Armstrong. It was an educational but nonetheless painful read. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A History of God is about the singular God of the three Abrahamic faiths - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. It is mainly about the how the theologies of the 3 religions changed through history. The book then ends on the note that the 3 religions must evolve new theologies to survive the current "empirical age". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I said that reading the book was painful because it really is quite heart wrenching to see human beings literally making shit up as they go (and that is pretty much what evolving new theologies mean). Yes, I am speaking as a person living in the "empirical age" but I think my "bias" is well justified. The ramifications of empiricism is much further than what Karen Armstrong seems to imply.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Karen Armstrong stressed repeatedly throughout the book that the stories about God (in the holy books or theologies conjured by religious thinkers through the ages) are never meant to be taken literally. Apparently, previous religious thinkers understood that. Karen goes so far as to say that God is not be understood as part of objective reality - God is "known" through subjective experience. Be it rationalistic, philosophically inclined school of thought or full on mysticism, God has always been thought to be incomprehensible or indescribable at least to some extent. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Right of the bat, she says the following.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A History of God, Page 5&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite its other-worldliness, religion is highly pragmatic. We hall see that it is far more important for a particular idea of God to work than for it to be logically or scientifically sound. As soon as it ceases to be effective it will be changed - sometimes for something radically different. This did not disturb most monotheists before our own day because they were quite clear that their ideas about God were not sacrosanct but could only be provisional. They were man-made -- they could be nothing else - and quite separate from the indescribable Reality they symbolised&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And indeed, through the book, the religious figures through history is said to create their own interpretations that were emphasized to be not rational, logical or scientifically accurate. For example, we have a statement like this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A History of God, Page 76&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the first time, the Israelites became seriously interested in Yahweh's role in creation, perhaps because of renewed contact with the cosmological myths of Babylon. They were not, of course, attempting a scientific account of the physical origins of the universe but were trying to find comfort in the harsh world of the present.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;That theme will ring throughout the book. So, literalists out there, you guys are just freaking wrong according to history.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Karen seems to think that a God that is not objective reality but known through subjective, religious experiences somehow solves the problem. And if I understood the underlying theme of the book, it seems to be saying that we just need to imagine a new theology like we've always done in the past. Is that what she really meant?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;God is not real, he's just in your head - and that's a good thing? For the religious populace, that would turn everything they claim about their God on its head. As far as I'm concerned, if you enjoy such acts of mental masturbation, go ahead - just don't impose it on people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8246192930938455191?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8246192930938455191/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8246192930938455191&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8246192930938455191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8246192930938455191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/03/its-not-really-real-history-of-god.html' title='It&apos;s not really real (A History of God)'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1855543807453625389</id><published>2011-02-25T22:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-27T00:19:19.431+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><title type='text'>Charges initiated against the Pope</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Finally, somebody is bringing the Pope to the International Criminal Court. That lousy excuse for a human being should have been hauled off to jail a long time ago.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;According to the Irish Times, 23 Feb 2011, &lt;a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0223/1224290630240.html"&gt;Charges initiated against Pope for crimes against humanity&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Their charges concern “three worldwide crimes which until now have  not been denounced . . . (as) the traditional reverence toward  ‘ecclesiastical authority’ has clouded the sense of right and wrong”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They  claim the Pope “is responsible for the preservation and leadership of a  worldwide totalitarian regime of coercion which subjugates its members  with terrifying and health-endangering threats”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They allege he is  also responsible for “the adherence to a fatal forbiddance of the use  of condoms, even when the danger of HIV-Aids infection exists” and for  “the establishment and maintenance of a worldwide system of cover-up of  the sexual crimes committed by Catholic priests and their preferential  treatment, which aids and abets ever new crimes”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They claim the  Catholic Church “acquires its members through a compulsory act, namely,  through the baptism of infants that do not yet have a will of their  own”. This act was “irrevocable” and is buttressed by threats of  excommunication and the fires of hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was “a grave impairment  of the personal freedom of development and of a person’s emotional and  mental integrity”. The Pope was “responsible for its preservation and  enforcement and, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the  Faith of his Church, he was jointly responsible” with Pope John Paul II.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Catholics  “threatened by HIV-AIDS . . . are faced with a terrible alternative: If  they protect themselves with condoms during sexual intercourse, they  become grave sinners; if they do not protect themselves out of fear of  the punishment of sin threatened by the church, they become candidates  for death.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was also “strong suspicion that Dr Joseph  Ratzinger, as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith  of his church and as Pope, has up to the present day systematically  covered up the sexual abuse of children and youths and protected the  perpetrators, thereby aiding and abetting further sexual violence toward  young people”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I love the charges leveled against "His Holiness". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The focus should be on the charge of aggravating the spread of HIV amongst people who heed his word with religious conviction and, even more importantly, aiding and abetting child rape in his churches. The third charge is almost impossible to indict the Church for since almost all religions do it to different extents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I wonder what punishment would prescribed for committing "crimes against humanity"? Personally, I think death is almost too easy for that sanctimonious piece of shit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I really hope that human justice be upheld in this case. But it seems somewhat unlikely... am I being too pessimistic?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1855543807453625389?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1855543807453625389/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1855543807453625389&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1855543807453625389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1855543807453625389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/charges-initiated-against-pope.html' title='Charges initiated against the Pope'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2589389291510008368</id><published>2011-02-19T13:00:00.006+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-20T10:14:16.755+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book Bits'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Godless, Dan Barker</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When I wrote the entry titled your Inner Fish way back in 2009 about the book by Neil Shubin by the same title, I intended to do the same with every book I would have acquired since then. That plan obviously fell though - it didn't happen at all. So let's see I can revive that a bit. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;One of the books I acquired in 2010 is Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists, by Dan Barker. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As I am already an atheist when I read the book, some portions were pretty much preaching to the choir from my view. For a religious reader though, in particular Christians, will get loads of information about this preachers deconversion from Christianity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The book is divided in to 4 parts. The first part, Rejecting God, provides the story, Dan Barker's life story from being a Christian to becoming an atheist. The second is called "Why I Am an Atheist" and it deals mainly with the arguments against god. The third chunk is about "What's Wrong With Christianity". And lastly, "Life is Good!" ends the book with his adventures as an activist and his thoughts about atheism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Amongst the chapters, I enjoyed the ninth one titled "Dear Theologian" the most I think.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's an excerpt from "Dear Theologian" where Dan has God writing to a theologian about the problems He faces. This one is regarding the idea of atonement by the death of Jesus Christ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Beyond that, it is entirely incomprehensible to me why you think I would accept the blood of one individual for the crime of another. Is that fair? Is that justice?" If you commit a felony, does the law allow your brother to serve the jail sentence for you? If someone burglarized your home, would you think that justice was served if a friend of the burglar bought you new furniture? Do you really think that I am such a bloodthirsty dictator that I will be content with the death of anyone for the crime of another? And are you so disrespectful of justice that you would happily accept a stand-in for your crimes? What about personal responsibility? Should I welcome believers into heaven who avoided the rap for their own actions? Something is way of kilter here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Chapter 9, Page 153&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I also like this bit about hell and omniscience. This should matter but it doesn't seem to faze any believer...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;How would you feel if you had brought some children into the world knowing that they were going to be tormented eternally in a place you built for them? Could you live with yourself? Wouldn't it have been better not to have brought them into the world in the first place? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Chapter 9, Page 151&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The final chapter of the whole book, "Life and Death Matters" is one that I found most meaningful. Here's one nugget:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"If there is no hope of eternal life, then what is the purpose of life?" is a question we atheists often hear. My response is that there is indeed no purpose &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; life. There is purpose &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; life. If there were a purpose &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; life, then that would cheapen life. It would make us tools or slaves of someone else's purpose. Like a hammer that hangs on the garage wall waiting for someone to build something, if we humans were designed for a purpose then we would be subservient in the universe. Our value would not be in ourselves. It would exist in our submission to the will of the toolmaker.&amp;nbsp; That is slavery to a master, or infant dependency on a father figure. Besides, if there is a god, what is the purpose &lt;i&gt;of his&lt;/i&gt; life? If he doesn't need a purpose, why do we? Doesn't a father need to have had a father? A true father does not want the child to remain forever subservient, finding purpose in pleasing the will of the parent. A true father expects the child to become a peer, with its own purpose, even if it disagrees with the parent. If I raise a child who is eternally dependent on me for meaning, then I am an inept parent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Chapter 19, Page 344&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This one is about meaning of life as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In the booklet, Craig writes that belief in God makes a difference because " If God does not exist, then life is ultimately meaningless." Well, yes, Bill, life is ultimately meaningless, and we should not want it any other way if we value life. If you have to resort of the rhetorical device of appealing to the reader's dissatisfaction with reality, fear of mortality and a desire for something "ultimate", simply assuming that such wishful thinking confers automatic credibility or dignity to the larger question, then you're admitting that your basic evidences for a God are no strong enough to stand on its own. You don't need any reasons at all, with that logic. You can simply say, "Being a mere mortal mammal makes me feel unimportant, so I'm going to believe in God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Truth is truth. It shouldn't matter what any one of us wants to believe. The fact that life is &lt;i&gt;ultimately&lt;/i&gt; meaningless does not mean it is not &lt;i&gt;immediately&lt;/i&gt; meaningful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Chapter 19, Page 347&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Okay, one final bit about "salvation".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We atheist possess "salvation" not because we are released from a sentence, but because we don't deserve the punishment in the first place. We have committed no "sin". Sin is a religious concept, and in some religions salvation is the deliverance from the "wages of sin" -- which is death or eternal punishment. Sin has been defined as "missing the mark" of God's expectations or holiness, or "offending God," so it follows that since there is no god, there is no sin, therefore no need of salvation. How much respect should you have for a doctor who cuts you wit a knife in order to sell you a bandage? Only those who consider themselves sinners need this kind of deliverance -- it is a religious solution to a religious problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If salvation is the cure, then atheism is the prevention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Chapter 19, Page 355&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For atheists who are well read on arguments against god and Christianity, this book won't provide you much new information but it will be an entertaining read. For life-long atheists, the first part might be valuable too.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2589389291510008368?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2589389291510008368/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2589389291510008368&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2589389291510008368'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2589389291510008368'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/godless-dan-barker.html' title='Godless, Dan Barker'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6228021395867436538</id><published>2011-02-18T20:00:00.008+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-19T16:05:14.341+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><title type='text'>Letting Go of God -- Julia Sweeney</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A beautiful and entertaining monologue by Julia Sweeney, Letting Go of God. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qixXRkCNrtE" title="YouTube video player" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;That's just the first of 13 videos of the entire monologue. Click &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Atheozoa#g/c/1F5AEB2FAFB0F830"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for the whole playlist.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6228021395867436538?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6228021395867436538/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6228021395867436538&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6228021395867436538'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6228021395867436538'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/letting-go-of-god-julia-sweeney.html' title='Letting Go of God -- Julia Sweeney'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/qixXRkCNrtE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8953109834599289321</id><published>2011-02-10T22:00:00.092+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-12T00:00:45.388+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>Reviewing the Integration Controversy</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It seems that the controversy has died down. The Straits Times did a review titled "Reflections on being Muslim and S'porean" today (10 Feb 2011) wherein it published several commentaries, that ran in Berita Harian and Berita Minggu (both sister newspapers for Malay audience), which were written in response to MM Lee's comments regarding Muslims and social integration. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;While I didn't agree with every point made in those commentaries, it was heartening to see that these responses were more measured and rational - engaging in discussion instead of dismissing it - and not of the "OMG, you're offensive - I don't want you around" variety.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;One particular commentary by Maarof Salleh (BH, Feb 3) gladdened me. It was the one titled "Understanding the integration controversy".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Numerous criticisms poured in, many claiming that MM Lee was insensitive. Unfortunately, the criticisms were mostly emotional and defensive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the dust has settled, hopefully there will be more detailed, sensible, wise and intellectual debates.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I love this part of the commentary. Finally somebody echoing my views expressly from (presumably) within the Muslim community.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The same author goes on to point out the core message of MM Lee's comments which were completely overlooked by some earlier responses. He also notes that MM's suggestion of relaxing religious observance was essentially idealistic - this I do agree with.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For instance, MM Lee is concerned about religious overzealousness. This warrants careful consideration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see MM Lee's views as touching more on the issue of social  cohesion, which is necessary for a young and pluralistic nation such as  Singapore. Enforcing social unity by asking people to be less strict in  their religious observances, although a rational argument, does not  guarantee success. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The other commentaries all address the issue of Muslim social integration from their angles. But it is obvious that the general theme for most of the commentaries is that people need to be more mature or rational and deal with the criticism as such.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I like this little bit from an excerpt too.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Issues of language, race and religion are usually sensitive. Even followers of the same religion have misunderstandings and conflicts due to different views.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is disconcerting is that some external parties try to wade into the controversy to take advantage of the situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I think this might be a quick swipe at &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/flak-crap.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;some Malaysian leaders&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Nice.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is probably the end of the "controversy". And this will possibly be the last entry about this issue as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8953109834599289321?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8953109834599289321/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8953109834599289321&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8953109834599289321'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8953109834599289321'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/reviewing-integration-controversy.html' title='Reviewing the Integration Controversy'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8518872778756907343</id><published>2011-02-04T22:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-05T14:14:37.558+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>The Status of Knowledge</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is probably one of the better videos I've seen addressing the status of knowledge with relation to the method of science. Created by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AntiCitizenX"&gt;AntiCitizenX&lt;/a&gt;, this video addresses the issue of why beliefs should be grounded on empiricism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HZkrX5lMiks" title="YouTube video player" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The most important message is this: Without empirical evidence, any claim may be rejected on that basis however "logical" it may sound.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/01/logic-alone.html" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Logic alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; is insufficient - &lt;a href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2009/12/default-position.html"&gt;Evidence&lt;/a&gt; is the ultimate arbiter of truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/QualiaSoup"&gt;QualiaSoup&lt;/a&gt; has previously created a video addressing this same topic from another angle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="330" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5wV_REEdvxo" title="YouTube video player" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The ideas presented in these videos are important and far-reaching when properly understood. Too little people care about this - so, &lt;i&gt;please do care&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8518872778756907343?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8518872778756907343/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8518872778756907343&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8518872778756907343'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8518872778756907343'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/status-of-knowledge.html' title='The Status of Knowledge'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/HZkrX5lMiks/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8990143212757907298</id><published>2011-02-02T16:00:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-02T16:55:28.805+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>False prophets</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A new video by &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist"&gt;TheThinkingAtheist&lt;/a&gt; on End Times predictions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" class="youtube-player" frameborder="0" height="255" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xJQFVqnlZTw" title="YouTube video player" type="text/html" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Like the video says, would any of these "prophets" admit they are wrong when their predictions are falsified by the day passing by like any other day?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Throughout &lt;a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm"&gt;history&lt;/a&gt;, plenty of doomsday predictions have been made and EVERY one of them never came to pass. When will these loonies learn? And when will the morons who believe them ever learn?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Yet there is still such morons walking the Earth today. What a tragedy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8990143212757907298?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8990143212757907298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8990143212757907298&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8990143212757907298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8990143212757907298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/false-prophets.html' title='False prophets'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/xJQFVqnlZTw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-2171179370510834740</id><published>2011-02-01T22:30:00.004+08:00</published><updated>2011-02-02T00:21:25.825+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>Seditious how?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As a digression from my earlier post, "More Muslims respond to MM Lee", I have some questions about the Sedition Act. I won't presume that a lawyer actually reads my blog but should one stumble upon my humble blog, I would greatly appreciate any input from the legal standpoint.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Singapore's statutes are available online. This is a link to the &lt;a href="http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_getdata.pl?actno=1964-REVED-290&amp;amp;segid"&gt;Sedition Act&lt;/a&gt; and here is some relevant bits (with parts truncated for easier reading).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;(1) A seditious tendency is a tendency —&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dl&gt;......&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;dl&gt;(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;dl&gt;(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore.&lt;/dl&gt;(2) Notwithstanding subsection (1), any act, speech, words, publication or other thing shall not be deemed to be seditious by reason only that it has a tendency —&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dl&gt;......&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;dl&gt;(c) to persuade the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore to attempt to procure by lawful means the alteration of any matter in Singapore; or&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;dl&gt;(d) to point out, with a view to their removal, any matters producing or having a tendency to produce feelings of ill-will and enmity between different races or classes of the population of Singapore,&lt;/dl&gt;if such act, speech, words, publication or other thing has not otherwise in fact a seditious tendency.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;My first question is: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;What does sedition actually encompass?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So far, the few people charged under the Sedition Act were due to "anti-Muslim" or "anti-Christian" comments. But what actually constitutes "anti-some religion"? From the words of the Act itself, it seems extremely broad as to what is considered "discontent or disaffection" and " feelings of ill-will and hostility".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Who and with what criteria is it decided that something is seditious versus not seditious?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The next question is:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Does the Act differentiate between insults and criticism?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Under the law, is there a difference between,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;[&lt;i&gt;Religious group A&lt;/i&gt;] comprises of mainly sub-human morons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;[&lt;i&gt;Religious group B&lt;/i&gt;] seems to be integrating with the rest of society at a slower pace - and I think it has to do with their religious teachings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;[&lt;i&gt;Religious group C&lt;/i&gt;]'s religious doctrine is unjust and therefore immoral because it advocates inheritance of moral debt by the debtor's descendants .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And if it does acknowledge differences, which statement(s) is considered seditious?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Moving on,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Are atheists, freethinkers, secular humanists/etc considered to be a religious category or categories in the eyes of the law?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Philosophically, the said groups are not thought to be religion(s). But legally I think they ought to be since those labels function as a "religion" for practical reasons - we still fill the 'Religion' section in forms with 'No religion' or perhaps even 'Atheist'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;So,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Are the above mentioned groups protected by the Sedition Act?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If, for example, freethinkers / atheists / secular humanists were disparaged for their lack of belief in god(s) by some religious group, can the religious group be prosecuted under the Sedition Act?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In addition,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Religious groups occasionally place other religions and non-believers in negative light. Does that contravene with the law?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I mean some of this stuff is &lt;i&gt;inside their holy books&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/quran5.html"&gt;Qur'an, 005.051&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20cor%206:14-17&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Bible (NIV), 2 Corinthians 6: 14-17&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I will live with them&lt;br /&gt;and walk among them,&lt;br /&gt;and I will be their God,&lt;br /&gt;and they will be my people.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore,&lt;br /&gt;“Come out from them&lt;br /&gt;and be separate,&lt;br /&gt;says the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;Touch no unclean thing,&lt;br /&gt;and I will receive you.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Are those considered to be, presumably, non-seditious?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What about discussions of religious doctrines, concepts and practices where there are major disagreements?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I ask this because I do not understand &lt;i&gt;when does discussion become sedition&lt;/i&gt;. On this blog, I merely want to discuss religious matters from an atheist point of view and have not, at any point, deliberately insult any religious group. Although what I consider to be mere discussion may be thought to be insulting to someone who is &lt;i&gt;intolerant of discussion&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Finally, just out of curiosity,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Is the Sedition Act unusual as a piece of legislation?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The way I see it, the Sedition Act is kinda odd.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The idea seems to be this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Religious groups take huge issue with anyone "disrespecting their religion", be it insult or sometimes even criticism. And as history tells us, that usually means large scale violence as "retaliation" for "offending their sensitivities". So, in order to prevent this, we wish to, in effect, censor speech that may have the effect of "disrespecting" a religion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This seems unusual to me because that is, in effect, treating religious groups as big babies - Big babies who are incapable of rational responses and would become violent lunatics if someone says something unkind. Something like "you cannot criticize me because I would kill you if you do."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Perhaps it seems practical to some. Kinda pathetic though. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-2171179370510834740?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/2171179370510834740/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=2171179370510834740&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2171179370510834740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/2171179370510834740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/02/seditious-how.html' title='Seditious how?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6849057503560021517</id><published>2011-01-30T15:00:00.009+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T21:13:52.185+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>More Muslims respond to MM Lee</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;After the initial responses to MM Lee Kuan Yew by the Malaysian leaders, reported on 26 Jan 2011, more responses continued to appear in newspapers. Not surprisingly, a majority of those responses are from Muslims. In my observations, these responses can be grouped into 3 categories.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The first, and possibly the most common response, is to take offence at the MM's comments. Such was typical of the responses offered by the Malaysian leaders in the first article in response to the MM. Responses along these lines is typified by claims that Muslims sensitivities were ignored and that the comments have caused the community hurt. Occasionally, a good old personal attack is thrown in as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Here's a nice example&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Right-wing Malay rights group Perkasa slammed Mr Lee, saying he seemed to be adapting the same tactic as non-Muslim opposition leaders in Malaysia who raised sensitive issues without bothering about Muslim sensitivities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali: “Perkasa does not consider [MM Lee] Kuan Yew as being less able to respect other religions, but instead, consider him as a very senile old man.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;MM's remarks on integration draw flak &lt;br /&gt;(The Straits Times, 26 Jan 2011)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Such responses do not warrant any response other than "Sorry, deal with it." Unless they're going to actually address what the MM is saying, there's really nothing to respond to.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The second kind of response are those of the "defence of the faith" variety. These responses usually say that the MM is simply wrong because Islam teaches religious harmony as well and is therefore do not hinder integration. Here's one such response from Singapore Muslims organisations reported by TODAY:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;On Thursday, the Islamic Religious Council of Singapore (MUIS) had said  that Islamic teachings do not hinder Muslims from integration in  Singapore society. AMP echoed these views and said that "a good Muslim  is duty bound, in Islam, to be a good Singaporean".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Muslim bodies irked by MM's remarks &lt;br /&gt;(TODAY, 29 Jan 2011)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Well, good for you. I am glad that that is what your version of Islam teaches although I do hope that you embrace reality soon. Arguments about "true Islam" holds no water with me and are not of my concern.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The third response tend to be more rational/measured. The counter claim that they offer is that Singapore Muslims are integrating with the rest of Singapore and therefore the MM is either simply wrong or overstating the case. Here's an example:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But Perdaus feels that the level of integration "has significantly  progressed" and "a better understanding and appreciation" of Singapore's  cultures now exist between Muslims and non-Muslims here. It cited the  community's participation in Inter-Racial and Religious Confidence  Circles and contributions by humanitarian relief organisation Mercy  Relief as examples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Muslim bodies irked by MM's remarks &lt;br /&gt;(TODAY, 29 Jan 2011)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I think that such responses kinda missed MM Lee's point. He is not claiming that Singapore Muslims are not integrating - he is claiming that the integrations was poorer when compared to other races/religions. Here is the relevant comment by the MM.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came,  and if you asked me for my observations, &lt;i&gt;the other communities have  easier integration &lt;/i&gt;- friends, intermarriages and so on, Indians with  Chinese, Chinese with Indians - than Muslims. That's the result of the  surge from the Arab states."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;MM's remarks on integration draw flak&lt;br /&gt;(The Straits Times, 26 Jan 2011)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Religions, in general, are divisive so it might seem unfair to pick on Islam. But it does seem obvious that Islam has less buffers to tribal behaviours. Christianity has a huge emphasis on proselytizing and thus appears friendlier to people. Buddhism and Taoism behave more like life philosophies in general and thus create less/no threat to religious harmony. Smaller religious groups exert less influences by virtue of being small. Islam, well, other than claiming it teaches religious harmony, has no such "buffers". This might be the reason why MM made his claim.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So that's my take on the responses so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As I was doing research for this entry, I found something disturbing. PKMS, the Singapore Malay National Organization, has called for MM Lee to be investigated for sedition. According to their press statement, it said,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Is it not that Mr Lee Kuan Yew's statements are distorting and inciting racial and religious disharmony? Does it not fall under the Internal Security Act? Mr Lee championed the Internal Security Act (ISA), is it not Mr Lee himself breached the act openly and disrespectfully? Can the book 'HARD TRUTH' be a subversive document and should be classified under the Sedition Act (Cap 290) and shall fall under The Internal Security Act Chapter 3 (Special Powers Relating to Subversive Publication etc.)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In addition to that, the statement also said,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We urged MUIS, as the highest Islamic authority in Singapore, advise Mr Lee Kuan Yew of the true teaching of Islam. Does Mr Lee's statements incite sentiments of protest among our Muslim brothers and may cause religious disharmony? We have also heard echoes of agreement from followers of other religion, who agree to Mr Lee's statements and they had even suggested for eradication of the Muslim in Singapore. Is Mr Lee's book subversive and cause of hatred and excite disaffection against Islam?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We demand Mr Lee Kuan Yew to apologize to the Singapore Muslim community and the Muslim world in general. We demand the book 'HARD TRUTH' be strictly banned and condemned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is religious lunacy. MM Lee's statements cannot be regarded as seditious under the law if the law is to be &lt;i&gt;meaningful&lt;/i&gt; at all. Granted, I am no lawyer, they might be right to the letter of the law but this is clearly not the spirit of the law. The Sedition Act is intended to prevent religions from turning onto each other. But in this case, it is being used to essentially censor any form of speech critical of religions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If Singapore, and the world, is to make any progress, then such speech must be permitted. If people take offence at such discussions then clearly that is their issue - people do not have the right not to be offended.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Nobody is disparaging anybody's religion with thoughtless remarks. It should be clear that there is a difference between&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Muslims are [Insert vulgarity or insult here].&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;and&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Muslims are integrating less smoothly than the other religions/races.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The MM's statements were essentially arguments for his point - a rational person should engage his arguments in a reasoned discussion. We should not be shutting down people simply for holding a difference in opinion - that should not be what we want or should do.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;PKMS' suggestion is obscene to anybody who still respects the freedom of speech.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I urge all Singaporeans to be rational here. Please think.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6849057503560021517?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6849057503560021517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6849057503560021517&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6849057503560021517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6849057503560021517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/responding-to-mm.html' title='More Muslims respond to MM Lee'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3219496675028338889</id><published>2011-01-27T16:00:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T21:13:52.187+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>Of Catholics and Condoms</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Church is rearing its ugly head here in Singapore - this one is about sex, morals and condoms. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;According to The Straits Times, 26 Jan 2011, in the article, "Call to tweak sexuality education",&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Some Catholic school principals have met Ministry of  Education (MOE)  officials to discuss how the ministry's sexuality  education programme  can be tweaked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Among other things, they had asked  for a segment on the use  of condoms to be modified so that it better  matches Catholic beliefs.  The segment includes a video on the use of  condoms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;And apparently,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A spokesman said the ministry conducts periodic reviews of  its  sexuality education programme, and consults parties such as parents,   teachers, students, health professionals and &lt;i&gt;religious leaders&lt;/i&gt;. [My emphasis added, in italics]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Although, it also said,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;'While the presentation of information could be refined, the  core  messages of the HPB remain relevant and will be retained,' the   spokesman said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Needless to say, I disagree with the pseudo moral ideas of the Church. But more importantly, I think that the MOE should not compromise with religious opinion. Singapore schools, Catholic or not, should not be doling out fantastical conceptions of morality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let's take a look at what the religious representatives have said. In a letter to Catholic school leaders, Archbishop Nicholas Chia wrote&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;He acknowledged that Singapore was "a secular  society where no  specific religious group has the right to impose its  beliefs on  others".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He went on to say that "within the context  of our Catholic  schools, however, I would find it unacceptable if  students were given a  compromised message on premarital sex. This  applies to all students in  the school".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is unfortunate that he thinks that it was "unacceptable" but being a "Catholic school" is not excuse. It is a &lt;i&gt;school&lt;/i&gt; - it must teach anything and everything deemed necessary by the ministry. Should there be a conflict of interest, students' welfare and education comes first, religious beliefs second. The secular interests of all students cannot be compromised by religious opinions of one segment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;On the use of condoms, he cited Church literature and teachings&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He  said that the Church's teaching 'concerns marital acts,  since marital  acts are the only ethical sexual acts in the eyes of the  Church'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He  added: 'If we present to our young people how to use the  condom  outside marriage, just in case you need it, it would be as though  the  Church is teaching us how to sin less grievously which makes no  sense.'&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Indeed, it makes no sense, because the very concept of premarital sex as a sin makes no sense. Granted, they do have the freedom to stick to their pseudo moral views under the pretext that it's their religious dogma.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But we're talking about teenagers here - we know that some of them, like it or not, are definitely going to fuck each others' brains out. If all we're going to give them is essentially "Say No To Sex" and stay a virgin for your future spouse or Jesus, you are going to be a grandparent.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To add insult to injury, the Catholic Church in general is also known for its stance against abortion as well. No to contraception, no to abortion? - it's almost as if the Church wants more teen pregnancies. In this respect, the Church seems uninformed about practical realities or it is grotesquely insensitive about human suffering &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This is not surprising given that the Catholic Church's (I am no longer referring to just those in Singapore) involvement in the global child rape scandals and the AIDS pandemic in Africa. This corrupt organization seems more concerned&amp;nbsp; with itself and its doctrines than the people that they care for - we would be better off treating its "moral" claims with skepticism if not ignoring them completely.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3219496675028338889?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3219496675028338889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3219496675028338889&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3219496675028338889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3219496675028338889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/of-catholics-and-condoms.html' title='Of Catholics and Condoms'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8696328073385005951</id><published>2011-01-26T15:00:00.100+08:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T21:13:52.188+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Responses'/><title type='text'>Flak Crap</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In response to Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew's remarks about Muslims in his recently published book "Hard Truths To Keep Singapore Going", several Malaysian leaders said that MM Lee was wrong. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;According to The Straits Times, 26 Jan 2011,&amp;nbsp; in the the article, "MM's remarks on integration draw flak", MM Lee assessing the progress of multiculturalism in Singapore, said in his book:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"I have to speak candidly to be of value, but I do not want to offend the Muslim community."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came, and if you asked me for my observations, the other communities have easier integration - friends, intermarriages and so on, Indians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians - than Muslims. That's the result of the surge from the Arab states."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I would say today, we can integrate all religions and races except Islam."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I think the Muslims socially do not cause any trouble, but they are distinct and separate."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"But now, you go to schools with Malays and Chinese, there's a halal and non-halal segment and so too, the universities. And they tend to sit separately so as not to be contaminated. All that becomes a social divide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When asked what Muslims in Singapore needed to do to integrate, he said:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Be less strict with your Islamic observances and say 'Okay, I'll eat with you.'&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I agree with what MM Lee has said on this issue. Content-wise, no disagreements. He certainly was candid with his sentiments - and I am sure some may take issue with how bluntly he has voiced them. But I will defend that point. There is no way one could criticize religion, Islam no less, without "offending sensitivities". But it must happen if we are to make any headway.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let's move on to the responses the Malaysian leaders had to offer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;De facto Religious Affairs Minister Jamil Khir Baharom, asked to comment on MM Lee's remarks, said he hoped  Malaysians would not support views that linked Islam to  blocking racial integration and national development. “I am worried such views will spread into Malaysian society, which  has many types of ideas,” he said,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Typical politically-correct response. Meaningless trite. But he follows up with something more telling of his views.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...adding that followers of Islam were  taught to be moderate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Is this more politically-correct nonsense? Or is this his personal, religiously driven response?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If the latter, then the thing to point out is the implicit "my" in front of the word "Islam" - that is, "&lt;i&gt;my Islam&lt;/i&gt; taught its followers to be moderate." We have to ask, which Islam? And is it really "moderate" as some would like to claim. As much as some would like to say that the "true Islam" is a "religion of peace", the Qur'an is much like the Bible, the big book of multiple choice - peace is but only one of the available options.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Next we have the Malaysian Islamic Development director-general Wan Mohamad Sheikh Abdul Aziz who said,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;MM Lee had failed to take Singaporeans away from the mindset of the 1960s, which was a period of prejudices and suspicions against Muslims.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"1960s" is a reference to the racial riots in Singapore (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_race_riots_in_Singapore"&gt;in 1964&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_race_riots_of_Singapore"&gt;1969&lt;/a&gt;) - those riots were fuelled in part by racism in general between the Chinese and Malays. Today's Singapore paints a different picture between the said races.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In any case, the issue MM Lee is addressing now is a whole different animal compared to that of the 1960s. So it seems unusual to bring it up - if anything, the director-general is the one still stuck in the 60s.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Right-wing Malay rights group Perkasa slammed Mr Lee, saying he seemed  to be adapting the same tactic as non-Muslim opposition leaders in Malaysia who raised sensitive issues without bothering about Muslim  sensitivities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I addressed this previously - criticizing religion however tactfully will come off as being offensive to somebody. But this shouldn't be the issue. These "leaders" should be responding constructively instead of rushing to take offence like lay people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali: “Perkasa does not  consider [MM Lee] Kuan Yew as being less able to respect other religions, but  instead, consider him as a very senile old man.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A personal attack, how mature. To me, a sign of intellectual defeat.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Parti Islam SeMalaysia Youth chief Nasrudin Hassan said Mr Lee’s comments made him sound like a “racist militant fighter”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A first glance, it looks like yet another personal attack. But a second look suggests this is more of the "OMG, you're so offensive" bullshit. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;On the whole, it seems that the Malaysian leaders mentioned seems to have nothing more to offer than some politically-correct drivel with taking offence as a side. Pitiful.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8696328073385005951?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8696328073385005951/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8696328073385005951&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8696328073385005951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8696328073385005951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/flak-crap.html' title='Flak Crap'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6085854757675266453</id><published>2011-01-14T10:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-01-23T19:12:06.527+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>More on Census 2010</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here's some excerpts from The Straits Times, 14 Jan 2011, as well as some of my comments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The decline in Buddhism over the past decade may be traced to the rise of churches, more people wanting to their own faith or the lack of one, and greater clarity between Buddhism and Taoism, said scholars and faith leaders yesterday. That may explain the increase in the proportion of Christians and people with no religion here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;With 97% of the non-religious being Chinese, an ethnicity traditionally associated with Buddhism/Taoism, this comes as no surprise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Dr Lai Ah Eng, a researcher who has studied religious trends here, said a reason may be the growing prominence of Pentecostal and Evangelical Christian groups here, which was a "reflection of a larger trend around the world".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Not to mention, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;worrying&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; trend. Religiosity is one thing we don't want to import from America.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The other group to gain new followers was those with no religion - from 14.8 per cent in 2000 to 17 per cent last year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;What an unusual way to describe the non-religious... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;followers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;of what&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;no religion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Sociologist Daniel Goh, an assistant professor at the National University of Singapore, said the increase could have be due to overall higher education levels and the loosening of kinship ties in society. "Higher-educated people are more likely to look to a de-ritualized way of life. They want to be able to choose freely a belief system that works for them."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Yet another unusual phrasing - "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;choose freely a belief system&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;We don't choose beliefs - We believe when we're convinced by the evidence (though evidential standards vary between individuals).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Morals not to be found in a book&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr Eugene Tay, 23, is used to asking questions. It is something his parents have encouraged him to do since he was little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I was encouraged to use basic tools - logic, science - to analyze our world. If something isn't right, we ask why," said the third-year engineering student at Nanyang Technological University.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His spirit of inquiry and his leaning towards logic and science have built in him a non-faith. He calls himself an "atheist-agnostic, secular humanist".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simply put, he does not believe in God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About organized religion, he said: "Having a religion to me would seem like I'm forcing myself to a certain dogma that tells me what to do, what is morally correct or incorrect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"There are ways to think about morals - and they don't all come in a book."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This seems like the first time I've seen, in the news, someone who explicitly identifies as an atheist-agnostic and secular humanist. Looks promising for one who hopes that more people become rational/skeptical atheists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I take issue with the capitalization of "god" in the article. "God" when capitalized usually refer to God of Abraham - which is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; the case here, here it should be "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;any gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;" not "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I do love the swipe made against the authority of scripture - and the bookish religions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6085854757675266453?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6085854757675266453/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6085854757675266453&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6085854757675266453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6085854757675266453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-on-census-2010.html' title='More on Census 2010'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1792522056386200636</id><published>2011-01-13T08:00:00.000+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-14T10:23:37.399+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='News'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>2010 Census - Religion in Singapore</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The 2010 Population Census of Singapore has just been released. The following is a graph representing the change in religious affiliation over the past decade. Blue represents the percentage of the population in 2000 and orange for 2010.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll348/Atheocentric/SGCensus2010Religion.png" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll348/Atheocentric/SGCensus2010Religion.png" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 460px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 420px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;From the data, it is clear that all religious categories increased in proportion over the decade with the sole exception of Buddhism. Amongst those experiencing an increase, Christianity, Taoism, Hinduism and people who identify with "no religion" show significant growth. Islam and "other religions" remained relatively stable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Figures tell that the younger generations are more likely to profess "no religion". The non-religious has seen an increase in proportion across alll age groups. Almost one in four university graduates had no religion - although this figure has fallen from 28.9% (2000) to 24.2% (2010).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ethnicity of the non-religious seems to be almost completely Chinese, accounting for about 97% of those who profess "no religion". This number account for slightly more than one-fifth of the Chinese population.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Although 17% of Singaporeans identify with "no religion", it is not clear what fraction have reached the position because of skepticism. But in general, it is somewhat promising to see some increase in irreligiosity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Singapore Census of Population 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are no direct links to/quotes of the document in question due to copyright. The data represented here have been drawn from newspaper publications (The Straits Times, 13 Jan 2011) which presumably have been granted permission to publish these results.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While no direct links are allowed, you may visit SingStats by searching "statistics singapore" on Google. At the site, go to Publications", look for the document in question under "Singapore Census of Population 2010".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1792522056386200636?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1792522056386200636/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1792522056386200636&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1792522056386200636'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1792522056386200636'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/2010-census-religion-in-singapore.html' title='2010 Census - Religion in Singapore'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-119612407565387399</id><published>2011-01-08T17:00:00.001+08:00</published><updated>2011-03-04T20:03:57.923+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='History'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God(s)'/><title type='text'>How Man created God</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;A lovely addition to &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt;'s video uploads - &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg&amp;amp;feature=sub"&gt;A History of God&lt;/a&gt;. This video more or less summarises the development of Judaism from earlier polytheistic religions to its modern monotheistic form. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MlnnWbkMlbg?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MlnnWbkMlbg?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Now I'm tempted to purchase Karen Armstrong's "A History of God" to learn more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-119612407565387399?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/119612407565387399/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=119612407565387399&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/119612407565387399'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/119612407565387399'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2011/01/how-man-created-god.html' title='How Man created God'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4917382391846607491</id><published>2010-12-29T17:00:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-29T18:55:39.122+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Forum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God(s)'/><title type='text'>You're mistaken</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The following are excerpts from a post made on a forum in response to an atheist. Most of the ideas espoused in the reply contains common misunderstandings and logical fallacies. I will be explaining them here - not on the forum itself, for I've long given up of spending hours explaining these ideas over and over again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The forum and author is not named and unnecessary. The post in question was not made directly to me either.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here we go,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Moving on, I see that you're a materialist in that you believe that only  things proven by science should be held as unequivocally true, and none  else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Granted, the person in question may hold that position but in general, most atheists don't think that. Things that are "proven" by science are not held as unequivocally true - not even scientists hold that position. Anyone who understands the Scientific Method would know that science do not prove anything with absolute certainty - all theories are thought to be tentatively true when sufficiently demonstrated by the evidence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;For me at least, "materialism" itself is also a tentative position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;However, that worldview only has one problem: there is absolutely no  reason to think that to be true. Furthermore, that belief itself cannot  be proven by the scientific method; i.e. it's self-defeating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;Absolutely no reason? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Again, "materialism" and "naturalism" are tentative positions. They are conclusions. And as far as evidence goes, they are "proven"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Okay, and before I continue, I think I should explain why I put materialism and naturalism is " " quotes. Those are allegations - they are positions I do not hold, at least not in the form I'm being accused of. For example, I am a materialist insofar that nothing non-matter/non-energy has been demonstrated to exist - and not because I think that non-material stuff cannot exist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The word "proven" is useless unless it has been agreed beforehand whether or not it is being used colloquially. Because in conversations with theists/laymen, it is always used with regards to science and in science, we don't prove theories - that only happens in mathematics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;So, back to the charge of materialism. I think the belief is "proven" by scientific method in the sense that it works. Without the addition of supernatural/immaterial entities, science explains accurately the workings of the universe. Technology demonstrates that science knows what it is talking about. I'm not sure if I have to say more than that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt; As for the notion that the Big Bang created everything and that there's  no need to invoke the supernatural, you've quite frankly just put your  foot in your mouth. Going by your line of reasoning, before the Big Bang  there was just pure, utter nothingness (I'm aware that time did not  exist before the bang, but let's just focus on the logic here). And if  we're to be rational, I guess it's unanimously held to be true that from  nothing, nothing comes, without exception.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Wrong on the Big Bang Theory. Utterly wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I've explained this line of reasoning in a previous post (the video is critical, so watch that as well): &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/something-from-nothing_19.html"&gt;Something from Nothing?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The short answer is, we don't believe that the universe came from nothing - that's a false accusation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;If the Big Bang was the absolute beginning, it literally is  supernatural! The universe, being material, has to have an immaterial,  intangible cause, I'm by no means intending to make a case here that  that cause therefore is God. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of the  said position, namely scientific naturalism. Consider this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Anything that &lt;b&gt;begins to exist&lt;/b&gt; has a cause. (God being the  creator of time if he exists, did not begin to exist and therefore needs  no cause i.e. you can't begin to exist when there's no time)&lt;br /&gt;2. The universe has clearly been proven to begin to exist.&lt;br /&gt;3. The universe has a cause.&lt;br /&gt;4. If we postulate a material cause, you have just set into motion  infinite regression as the material cause itself has to have a cause.&lt;br /&gt;5. The universe's cause is immaterial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you disagree with the above, you inevitably have to believe that  nothing created something. If that be so, all logic and argumentation  breaks down and we have no need to continue any discourse. If you agree,  scientific naturalism no longer is viable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Premise 1 is just wrong in so many ways.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I'd suggest reading this essay by Dan Barker: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dan_barker/kalamity.html"&gt;Cosmological Kalamity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; instead of rewriting all the points myself on my poor blog.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;However, I'm more fascinated by the fourth and fifth point. How does concluding with an immaterial cause solve anything? How does immaterial entities escape causality? Consider souls - are they uncreated as well? If they are not eternal, they demonstrate that having an immaterial nature does not grant escape from causality within that worldview. If that's the case, what is the logical link between the fourth and fifth point?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In any case, the argument is unsound.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;But how does the argument relate to "scientific naturalism" being not viable? Science relies on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Methodological&lt;/span&gt; Naturalism - it presumes naturalism &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;but it does not preclude it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;. If there is a supernatural entity, science does not assert that it must not exist - it merely ignores it so as long it does not interfere with the natural world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;On other hand, skepticism demands that we reject the existence of such an entity until we have evidence to demonstrate its existence. Everything else is moot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;I don't think that it's sensible to write off God without examining  thoroughly the case for it for it's far too important a matter to just  dismiss out of probably either a fear of being accountable to your  maker, or some vague notion of wanting to be your own 'god' and live  life your way, or perhaps cursory cognizance of some trifling objections  to his existence from existence of evil, even gratuitous forms of it,  in the world, of which satisfactory explanations in the context of God  exist in abundance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This one is just condescending.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;How about this for a reason: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;NO EVIDENCE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;That's all.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;God cannot be proven scientifically simply because he's immaterial and  science only deals with the physical world, though it can be shown that a  theistic position is more rational than an atheistic one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Wrong. It depends on the god in question.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The deistic god cannot be demonstrated to exist by science since he does not interfere with the universe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;BUT the theistic god does. And as long the god interferes with the world in some testable manner, science can in fact demonstrate his existence.  Prayer is one way. If god answers the prayers in a statistically significant way, that would be some evidence in his favor. So far, this is not shown to be the case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;You can't see  the wind, but you can tell it's there when the leaves rustle. God is  not perceivable by the senses being a spirit being, but his fingerprints  are all over creation, not the least of which resides in the cell in  the form of DNA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The analogy fails.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Wind is moving air. We have demonstrated with evidence that air freaking exist. God, we have not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"Creation" here is merely an assertion - an argument from incredulity/ignorance. I'm not sure how is DNA supposed to fit into this but if it's something  like "OMG, it's so complex. Therefore, god" (which seems to be what it usually boils down to), I'm not impressed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;And that's to the end of that post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4917382391846607491?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4917382391846607491/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4917382391846607491&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4917382391846607491'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4917382391846607491'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/youre-mistaken.html' title='You&apos;re mistaken'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4391518820221110041</id><published>2010-12-23T14:00:00.005+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-23T18:51:08.215+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Singapore'/><title type='text'>Religious harmony, really?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Recently, in the newspapers, there have been a couple of praise or mention of religious harmony in Singapore. One letter in the forum section of the Straits Times even commented that "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;The Prime News photograph yesterday (above) of Rabbi Mordechai Abergel, Buddhist monk the Venerable Fa Rong and Mufti Syed Isa Mohamed Semait nearly moved me to tears&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;." (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/STIStory_613905.html"&gt;The Straits Times - ST Forum - Picture perfect harmony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;It's good so far&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Before I continue, I need to say that I do like the fact that Singapore enjoys religious harmony. Religions do not make much issue here unlike some of our neighbours (such as Christianity vs Islam in Indonesia).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;To be clear, I am all for religious harmony.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Now here comes the big "but",&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;But, I don't think that that is a solution in the long run.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;Exclusivity of religious truth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Religions make truth claims. Unless the religion advocates the kind of universalism where it teaches that all religions are different paths to god(s), religions are mutually exclusive. No two religion can be simultaneously correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Look at Old Testament (Christianity) or Tanakh (Judaism) on the issue of other gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;From the Book of Deuteronomy (Tanakh/Bible)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2017&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Deuteronomy 17:2-7&lt;/a&gt; (New International Version, NIV)&lt;br /&gt;If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky&lt;/span&gt;, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;stone that person to death&lt;/span&gt;. On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;What about the Koran's (Islam's) view of Christianity,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;From the Qur'an, the holy book of Islam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/005.qmt.html#005.072"&gt;Qur'an 5:72-78&lt;/a&gt; (Yusufali translation)&lt;br /&gt;They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things." Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.&lt;br /&gt;Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I think I need not say more about the exclusivity of the truth claims of the fore mentioned religions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Even without these intolerant ideas in their holy books, religions feeds off human tribalism. It fosters divisiveness explicitly or implicitly, creating a Us versus Them situation whenever it is deemed fit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;The inherent danger of reversion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Yes, I understand believers have various reasons to ignore or not act on behalf of their holy books. But the fact remains that those verses are in their holy books. A simple reversion to fundamentalism or literalism will unleash yet more evils of religion upon the society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Religious fervor transcend educational and economic boundaries (and indeed, national ones). This is notably true in present day events. The perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks were educated Muslims from middle income families from different countries. There was the &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/atheistmediablog?blend=1&amp;amp;ob=4#p/u/47/DWR1DngybTI"&gt;assassinations&lt;/a&gt; of abortion-providing doctors in the United States of America. Religion is clearly capable of inspiring insane atrocities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;Really harmony?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Is this harmony (in Singapore) we see truly what it seems?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Can it survive the religious fanaticism emanating from the rest of the globe?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Are the religions in Singapore really holding hands and skipping across the beautiful meadows of peace?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Or is it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;just begrudging tolerance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; - with religions sitting around a table with weapons behind them waiting for someone to say or do the wrong thing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I am simply saying that we need to recognize this issue and actually address it. This fluffed up image of harmony fails to address this inherent danger of religions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Peace does not come about by ignoring clear and present danger.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-4391518820221110041?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/4391518820221110041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=4391518820221110041&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4391518820221110041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/4391518820221110041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/religious-harmony-really.html' title='Religious harmony, really?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-744545932980648059</id><published>2010-12-22T17:00:00.004+08:00</published><updated>2012-01-29T23:54:19.605+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quran'/><title type='text'>Being late has its advantages - The Qur'an</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;One of the perks for being a young religion is that you get to demonize/denounce other religions and put it right in your holy book. Ain't that nice? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Christianity had its turn with the ancient gods of the region which it pejoratively generalized as the "pagan" gods. So being sister religion, Islam had a go too against her big sister. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;This post is mainly for referencing purposes. So here are the relevant excerpts from the holy book of Islam, the Qur'an (Koran).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/019.qmt.html#019.088"&gt;Qur'an 4:88-93&lt;/a&gt; (Yusufali translation)&lt;br /&gt;They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin,  that they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a servant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/004.qmt.html#004.171"&gt;Qur'an 4:171&lt;/a&gt; (Yusufali translation)&lt;br /&gt;O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/005.qmt.html#005.072"&gt;Qur'an 5:72-78&lt;/a&gt; (Yusufali translation)&lt;br /&gt;They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things." Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.&lt;br /&gt;Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-744545932980648059?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/744545932980648059/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=744545932980648059&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/744545932980648059'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/744545932980648059'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/being-late-has-its-advantages-quran.html' title='Being late has its advantages - The Qur&apos;an'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-476877516749813089</id><published>2010-12-17T12:30:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-17T20:43:50.399+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Belief'/><title type='text'>Science as a disbelief system</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The following is an interesting take from a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://richarddawkins.net/discussions/562936-science-as-a-disbelief-system"&gt;discussion page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; at &lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://richarddawkins.net/"&gt;RichardDawkins.net&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;It's titled "Science as a disbelief system" and written by the user, "Schrodinger's cat". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;I recently had a friend make a comment along the lines of "You believe in science....I believe in religion...they are both belief systems," as if to imply some sort of equitable relationship between the two. I'm sure many of us have had similar experiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The friend seemed quite startled when I responded, "Actually no, science is a disbelief system." I pointed out that what makes science different from any other thought system is that while the congregation in religion is shouting 'Hallelujah!', in science they are shouting 'Prove it!' And to cap it all, the scientific high priests are required to provide a means of disproving that anything they say is true! Can you imagine the Pope doing that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is science not on equitable terms with religion, it is effectively the complete opposite. If science were a religion, then it's the only one where the holy scriptures demand not unquestioning belief but questioning disbelief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's high time we got rid of this 'just another belief system' mentality in society. We could start by banning 'faith' schools and their ridiculous notion that teaching science and religion is somehow 'complementary'.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I have never done a repost but this one was interesting enough for me to have done it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;One of core principle in science is the requirement that its theories be falsifiable - and indeed be falsified if evidence ever turns up to falsify the theory however old, popular or elegant. Science is self-correcting and demands that correction be made if one is to remain honest about the state of our knowledge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;That is the beauty of science.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-476877516749813089?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/476877516749813089/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=476877516749813089&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/476877516749813089'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/476877516749813089'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/science-as-disbelief-system_17.html' title='Science as a disbelief system'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-8213079243368161545</id><published>2010-12-11T21:00:00.005+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-11T21:59:52.809+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>A Sadomasochistic God</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In recent months, I have subscribed to a number of channels on Youtube and one of them is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringReligion"&gt;DiscoveringReligion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;. This channel is host to an original series by the same name and it is of excellent quality. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Just hours ago, this video titled "A Sadomasochistic God" was uploaded. This video expounds on the concept of a omniscient god behind the purported sacrifice of his son/self supposedly for his love for his creation, humanity. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I love it. It's almost like the video version of my previous posts (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/09/denouncing-christianity.html"&gt;Denouncing Christianity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2009/04/morally-inferior-god.html"&gt;A morally inferior god&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2008/12/immoral-acceptance.html"&gt;Immoral Acceptance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;) on the topic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mr_5Tbm0mPo?fs=1" width="400" frameborder="0" height="250"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;His series, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringReligion#grid/user/70E757541E8576D7"&gt;Discovering Religion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;, is extremely well made. Here I shall post the latest episode (3 parts) which managed to unsettle me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I1r1hsrQMj8?fs=1" width="400" frameborder="0" height="250"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ImmfkdyKMKY?fs=1" width="400" frameborder="0" height="250"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/e7jIU0GpUFU?fs=1" width="400" frameborder="0" height="250"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-8213079243368161545?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/8213079243368161545/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=8213079243368161545&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8213079243368161545'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/8213079243368161545'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/sadomasochistic-god.html' title='A Sadomasochistic God'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/mr_5Tbm0mPo/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1798160726143132739</id><published>2010-12-04T16:30:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-04T16:54:07.216+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Superstition'/><title type='text'>Thank goodness</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Well, this is old news. But I'm posting this anyways for posterity's sake. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This is Daniel Danett's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dennett06/dennett06_index.html"&gt;open letter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; that he wrote during recuperation after his heart surgery. It's a meaningful piece with bits worth repeating here. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Yes, I did  have an epiphany. I saw with greater clarity than ever before in my life  that when I say "Thank goodness!" this is not merely a euphemism for  "Thank God!" (We atheists don't believe that there is any God to thank.)  I really do mean &lt;em&gt;thank goodness! &lt;/em&gt;There is a lot of goodness in  this world, and more goodness every day, and this fantastic human-made  fabric of excellence  is genuinely responsible for the fact that I am  alive today. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Do I &lt;em&gt;worship &lt;/em&gt;modern medicine? Is science my &lt;em&gt;religion&lt;/em&gt;?  Not at all; there is no aspect of modern medicine or science that I  would exempt from the most rigorous scrutiny, and I can readily identify  a host of serious problems that still need to be fixed. That's easy to  do, of course, because the worlds of medicine and science are already  engaged in the most obsessive, intensive, and humble self-assessments  yet known to human institutions, and they regularly make public the  results of their self-examinations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;One of the  gentler, more supportive themes to be found in every religion (so far as  I know) is the idea that what really matters is what is in your heart:  if you have good intentions, and are trying to do what (God says) is  right, that is all anyone can ask. Not so in medicine! If you are  wrong—especially if you should have known better—your good intentions  count for almost nothing. And whereas taking a leap of faith and acting  without further scrutiny of one's options is often celebrated by  religions, it is considered a grave sin in medicine...... Good intentions and inspiration are  simply not enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;What,  though, do I say to those of my religious friends (and yes, I have quite  a few religious friends) who have had the courage and honesty to tell  me that they have been praying for me? I have gladly forgiven them, for  there are few circumstances more frustrating than not being able to help  a loved one in any  more direct way...... But I am not  joking when I say that I have had to forgive my friends who said that  they were &lt;em&gt;praying &lt;/em&gt;for me. I have resisted the temptation to  respond "Thanks, I appreciate it, but did you also sacrifice a goat?" I  feel about this the same way I would feel if one of them said "I just  paid a voodoo doctor to cast a spell for your health."...... Don't expect me to be grateful, or even indifferent. I do  appreciate the affection and generosity of spirit that motivated you,  but wish you had found a more reasonable way of expressing it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Nicely put.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1798160726143132739?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1798160726143132739/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1798160726143132739&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1798160726143132739'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1798160726143132739'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/thank-goodness.html' title='Thank goodness'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-9071952200622576453</id><published>2010-12-03T13:30:00.002+08:00</published><updated>2010-12-04T16:24:28.186+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>He can't just forgive</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Yet another excellent video by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525"&gt;darkmatter2525&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rdxeqEoDXco?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rdxeqEoDXco?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Yahweh cannot forgive without making an ultimatum. Not very godly, methinks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-9071952200622576453?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/9071952200622576453/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=9071952200622576453&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9071952200622576453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/9071952200622576453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/12/he-cant-just-forgive.html' title='He can&apos;t just forgive'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6156712694502734690</id><published>2010-11-20T09:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2010-11-20T09:30:27.481+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><title type='text'>If god was a car</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Another excellent video by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525"&gt;Darkmatter2525&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object style="font-family: arial;" width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qahB7mYhLxs?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qahB7mYhLxs?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="250"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Logical arguments without evidence proves nothing. Existence claims cannot be demonstrated by logic alone, we need evidence. Otherwise, we're just arguing entities into existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6156712694502734690?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6156712694502734690/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6156712694502734690&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6156712694502734690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6156712694502734690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/if-god-was-car.html' title='If god was a car'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1998126421726766644</id><published>2010-11-19T08:00:00.006+08:00</published><updated>2010-11-20T23:11:54.830+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arguments'/><title type='text'>Something from Nothing?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This tired old canard of "Something from Nothing" is leveled at atheists by theists who don't know any better. This lie gives away the theist's ignorance of the science behind Big Bang theory (which rationalists in general accepts as true). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I think that the problem is worst than that. But first, I'll have to explain the phrase first.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"Something from nothing" is sometimes used by physicists while explaining the Big Bang theory. However, "nothing" is not the "nothing" that most people would imagine. Well, if there was just empty space and something just 'poofed' into existence - that would seem pretty absurd. But that is NOT what physicists mean. By nothing, they mean nothing that we know of exist. That is, matter, energy, space and time, as we know it, has not come into existence. Here, I'll let the physicists themselves do the talking:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u_676IeyJNQ?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u_676IeyJNQ?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;But here's the crucial part - why I think the argument is just stupid right from the get go: NOBODY believes that. Even physicists would postulate something - say, a quantum fluctuation - that led up to the Big Bang.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, there is still a fabric of reality. "Something" is still there. For the theists, it's their god(s) (which explains nothing). For us, non-believers, we generally accept what the scientific method has discovered about reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the canard "something from nothing" is just bloody useless to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nothingness&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's something deeper though. Why do people suppose that there would ever be "absolute nothingness"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure where I'm going with this train of thought. Perhaps you thought about it and might share some insights in the comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that existence is an intrinsic part of reality. If there is absolute nothingness, then there is no reality to speak of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there was nothing at all, no action, no entities, no na-da, nothing would ever happen. So something could never come from nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since we do in fact exist, that would also imply that there was always something around - not a moment in reality was there ever absolute nothingness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is that right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1998126421726766644?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1998126421726766644/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1998126421726766644&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1998126421726766644'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1998126421726766644'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/something-from-nothing_19.html' title='Something from Nothing?'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-1426713860478816633</id><published>2010-11-12T14:30:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2011-12-02T12:41:50.833+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='History'/><title type='text'>El, Elohim and Yahweh</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;There is a clear overlap between the ancient Ugaritic  religion and Judaism (and by implication, Christianity and Islam as  well). However it seems that such information is hardly known to the  average adherents of those religions implicated. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;It  should be made clear that the information presented is not some  minority view or "heretical"/"atheist" propaganda. The data here can be  found in archeology books pertaining to ancient middle east religions  or, more specifically, the canaanite religion. In fact, some of the  sources I'll be citing or quoting from are religious sources.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;I  first stumbled across this topic when watching the Atheist Experience  TV show podcast. Tracie Harris co-hosted 3 episodes (Episodes &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7143320070446993932" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;#464&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-409150903083942192" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;#466&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3048879793791495094" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;#483&lt;/a&gt;) where the topic was discussed. And here is the relevant blog post on the Atheist Experience blog: &lt;a href="http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2007/08/ugarit-and-bible.html"&gt;Ugarit and the Bible&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;If you do a Google search on "Ugarit and the Bible", this webpage by the Quartz Hill School of Theology comes up on top: &lt;a href="http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm"&gt;Ugarit and the Bible&lt;/a&gt;.  This also one of the sources cited by Tracie Harris at the AETV blog.  As far as I can tell, the information on the page is accurate and is  comparable to those found in the books at libraries. So this shouldn't  strike anyone as being non-mainstream.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll let them speak for themselves why Ugaritic text pertains to the bible: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Why  should people interested in the Old Testament want to know about this  city [Ugarit] and its inhabitants? Simply because when we listen to  their voices we hear echoes of the Old Testament itself. Several of the  Psalms were simply adapted from Ugaritic sources; the story of the flood  has a near mirror image in Ugaritic literature; and the language of the  Bible is greatly illuminated by the language of Ugarit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Let's begin with the word "El". Correction, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;name&lt;/span&gt;  "El". While "El" is translated as a generic word for "god" in the  hebrew bible, this was not the case before. According to the ugarit  religion, El is a proper name for the supreme deity of the ugaritic  pantheon. He is identified as the creator of "the heavens and the  earth", the father of 70 gods as well as the father of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elohim is plural. Not singular as advocated by translators of the bible. Elohim refers to El's pantheon of gods, his council.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And Yahweh? He was one of the 70 sons of El. Here's the relevant quote from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh#Ancient_Israel_and_Judah"&gt;Wikipedia regarding the development in ancient Israel&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;In  the earliest stage Yahweh was one of the seventy children of El, each  of whom was the patron deity of one of the seventy nations. This is  illustrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint texts of Deuteronomy  32:8-9, in which El, as the head of the divine assembly, gives each  member of the divine family a nation of his own, "according to the  number of the divine sons": Israel is the portion of Yahweh. The later  Masoretic text, evidently uncomfortable with the polytheism expressed by  the phrase, altered it to "according to the number of the children of  Israel"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know I am quoting Wikipedia, which is not  exactly scholarly material, but I'm only doing so because the content  agrees with the books I read in the libraries as well as other online  sources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice the parallels between El and Yahweh and it  becomes obvious the worshipers of Yahweh assimilated the characteristics  of El into Yahweh at some point in history. And it seems that &lt;a href="http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm"&gt;theologians&lt;/a&gt; know this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Other  deities worshipped at Ugarit were El Shaddai, El Elyon, and El Berith.  All of these names are applied to Yahweh by the writers of the Old  Testament. What this means is that the Hebrew theologians adopted the  titles of the Canaanite gods and attributed them to Yahweh in an effort  to eliminate them. If Yahweh is all of these there is no need for the  Canaanite gods to exist! This process is known as assimilation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This assimilation seems to be demonstrated by the association of El's consort&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; (ie, a goddess)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;, Asherah, with Yahweh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;From &lt;a href="http://bible.org/article/baalism-canaanite-religion-and-its-relation-selected-old-testament-texts"&gt;Bible.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Athirat,  or as she is referred to sometimes, Ilat (i.e., goddess of the god El),  is the most prominent goddess in the Ugaritic pantheon, though her  origin appears to go back well before Ugarit (1200-1400 B.C.E.) to the  time of the Ebla tablets. In the Ugaritic pantheon she is the consort of  El. She is referred to as the "mother of the gods" or "procreatress of  the gods." She thus shares in El's creative work. She is also referred  to as "Lady Athirat of the sea" and by the Semitic word qd (i.e., holy).  She figures prominently in the Ugaritic texts in which Baal and Anat  are requesting from El a palace for Baal to live in (CTA 4), texts  concerning Shahar and Shalim (CTA 23) and in another wherein she is said  to receive a sheep offered in sacrifice. The name Asherah is the  designation often given this goddess in the Old Testament.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;From &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh#Ancient_Israel_and_Judah"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Between  the eighth to the sixth centuries El became identified with Yahweh,  Yahweh-El became the husband of the goddess Asherah, and the other gods  and the divine messengers gradually became mere expressions of Yahweh's  power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;From the &lt;a href="http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm"&gt;Quartz Hill School of Theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One  of the most interesting of these lesser deities, Asherah, plays a very  important role in the Old Testament. There she is called the wife of  Baal; but she is also known as the consort of Yahweh! That is, among  some Yahwists, Ahserah is Yahweh’s female counterpart!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently  it seems that there is also evidence for the assimilation of Baal Hadad  into Yahweh. Baal Hadad is a storm god and the only one in the Ugaritic  pantheon that is identified by the title "rider of the clouds". This  title is later attributed to Yahweh in the bible. For those who wouldn't  mind reading longer articles, check out this article on Bible.org: &lt;a href="http://bible.org/article/baalism-canaanite-religion-and-its-relation-selected-old-testament-texts"&gt;Baalism in Canaanite Religion and Its Relation to Selected Old Testament Texts&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:azoCq2mG97gJ:bible.org/article/baalism-canaanite-religion-and-its-relation-selected-old-testament-texts+baalism&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;gl=sg"&gt;Google Cache version&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;For those want to read more, check out Wikipedia on these topic as well. See "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_religion"&gt;Canaanite religion&lt;/a&gt;" and "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh#Early_history_of_Yahweh-worship"&gt;Early history of Yahweh worship&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The relationship between Yahweh of the Abrahamic religions and the gods of the Ugaritic pantheon (in particular, El) is obvious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Why isn't this information more widely known?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;More  unusually, why don't such knowledge pose a problem to adherents of  those faiths? I would think this would make it more than obvious that  religions are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;made up&lt;/span&gt; (ie, fiction).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;What's your excuse?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt; (2 Dec 2011): &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3"&gt;Evid3nc3&lt;/a&gt; has an excellent video about evolution of monotheism from polytheism based on Karen Armstrong book, A History of God. It includes how Yahweh became the "One God".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="243" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MlnnWbkMlbg" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-1426713860478816633?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/1426713860478816633/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=1426713860478816633&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1426713860478816633'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/1426713860478816633'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/el-elohim-yahweh.html' title='El, Elohim and Yahweh'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/MlnnWbkMlbg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-112565894353116695</id><published>2010-10-24T11:20:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2010-10-24T11:26:45.496+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheist Experience'/><title type='text'>The Non Prophets are back</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Here's a little "shout out" for the Non Prophets Radio podcast. The Non Prophets are back after a REALLY long hiatus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Matt Dillahunty has uploaded 3 new podcast. One with the last of the guerrilla podcast (9.8), one being a compilation of interviews Matt did during the Texas Freethought Convention (9.TFC) and the latest one being a usual NPR podcast (9.10).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;So here is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.nonprophetsradio.com/audio/"&gt;the link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.nonprophetsradio.com/audio/"&gt;Non Prophets Radio archive page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-112565894353116695?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/112565894353116695/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=112565894353116695&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/112565894353116695'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/112565894353116695'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/10/non-prophets-are-back.html' title='The Non Prophets are back'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-6777555165168505870</id><published>2010-10-22T11:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2010-11-19T10:12:47.940+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Science)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Videos (Religion)'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Richard Dawkins'/><title type='text'>Back with Videos</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;It's been 3 weeks and during that time, lots of videos has been churned out on Youtube. Here's  three that I particularly liked.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Most recently, richarddawkinsdotnet has (finally) posted new videos. Here's a conversation between Richard Dawkins and Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Interesting stuff.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9RExQFZzHXQ?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9RExQFZzHXQ?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;QualiaSoup also uploaded another video. This time he addresses atheism directly. Beautifully made video as usual.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sNDZb0KtJDk?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sNDZb0KtJDk?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I thoroughly enjoyed this video by AronRa. Continuing his "Falsifying Phylogeny" series, this video is about the dog family.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bJ-DawQKPr8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bJ-DawQKPr8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-6777555165168505870?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/6777555165168505870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=6777555165168505870&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6777555165168505870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/6777555165168505870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-been-3-weeks-and-during-that-time.html' title='Back with Videos'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-3178382652115343565</id><published>2010-09-27T06:50:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2010-09-27T06:58:16.103+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='About Me'/><title type='text'>Hiatus</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This blog is going on an official three week hiatus (as if I had been consistent in my blog postings... er, nevermind that). I'll be off to Australia for slightly more than 3 weeks due to conscript obligations. So, byes!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4484360653507674234-3178382652115343565?l=atheozoa.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/feeds/3178382652115343565/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4484360653507674234&amp;postID=3178382652115343565&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3178382652115343565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4484360653507674234/posts/default/3178382652115343565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheozoa.blogspot.com/2010/09/hiatus.html' title='Hiatus'/><author><name>Atheozoa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17406794239052349494</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4484360653507674234.post-4227598345952630874</id><published>2010-09-22T16:00:00.003+08:00</published><updated>2010-11-19T10:23:31.313+08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current Affairs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><title type='text'>Arrest the Pope</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Is there nothing that we can prosecute the pope for? I would think that the two atrocities that the Roman Catholic Church has committed should at the least warrant some international legal action.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;First off, the Church's cover up of the pedophile priests is just plain criminal. And we're not talking about one or two isolated cases, we're talking about scores of child rape and molest allegations across the world. Evidence suggest that the pope cannot possibly have been ignorant of the rampant child rapes occurring in the parishes. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Instead of handing the priests to the authorities so that justice may actually be served, the Church has decided to cover up the scandal. And when that failed, they're issuing monetary compensation left and right while moving the offending priests to other parishes (where they likely would offend again).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;That alone, I would think, warrant some real justice to be served. But hell no, the pope is still in his golden throne preaching around the ills of materialism and immorality of "secular" people from his multi-billion dollar palace. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The second atrocity, in my opinion, should be considered a crime against humanity. The pope, that infallible pope, has, in his infinite wisdom, freaking LIED to the African people. He essentially told them that condoms do not protect people against HIV but increases their chances of contracting the virus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;WHAT A PREPOSTEROUS LIE. That lying prick deserves prison. The death penalty even, if it applies. How is that any different from committing genocide against the African people himself?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; And he doesn't even need to stray from his own fucking religion to know lying is wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;ARGH
